Troy Corser gets a bit cheeky with John McGuinness-Goodwood
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Tango13 said:
Yeah but The Battle of Britain and 1966 and all that...
Was that BMW a right hand gear change and how many gear does it have?
http://www.mbike.com/bmw/r57/1929Was that BMW a right hand gear change and how many gear does it have?
Birky_41 said:
That was brilliant to watch! That old 1920s BMW was friggin quick
He was getting the bike into some proper shapes out of Woodcote - not surprising given the rigid rear end! Very impressive riding on an 89 year old bike.McGuinness was also noticeably slower than his teammate.
Deranged Granny said:
He was getting the bike into some proper shapes out of Woodcote - not surprising given the rigid rear end! Very impressive riding on an 89 year old bike.
McGuinness was also noticeably slower than his teammate.
Having just recovered from his injuries, I don't blame him. No point risking another crash in what is essentially an exhibition race. McGuinness was also noticeably slower than his teammate.
t out of it in the paddock in the evening too.The commentators seem to be confused about whether the bike is a 1929 R57 Kompressor or a 1936 R5 Kompressor.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llMFtQb4lLs#
I think the 1936 bike has telescopic forks and a foot change, so it must be the '29.
In this clip, they say that the 1929 bike has 75bhp. If that's true, it explains why the BMW just strolled past the Manx that John McGuinness was riding.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VEwIKgyGM
Just realised that one of the commentators in the first clip is Stuart Graham, who raced all sorts, from the works Suzuki 50cc twins (350bhp/litre, a 500rpm power band, and a 14-speed gearbox!) to Chevrolet Camaros. His father was Les Graham DFC, who was a Lancaster pilot in World War 2, the 1949 500cc world champion riding the AJS "Porcupine" twin, and who was killed on the MV four at the 1953 TT.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=llMFtQb4lLs#
I think the 1936 bike has telescopic forks and a foot change, so it must be the '29.
In this clip, they say that the 1929 bike has 75bhp. If that's true, it explains why the BMW just strolled past the Manx that John McGuinness was riding.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h1VEwIKgyGM
Just realised that one of the commentators in the first clip is Stuart Graham, who raced all sorts, from the works Suzuki 50cc twins (350bhp/litre, a 500rpm power band, and a 14-speed gearbox!) to Chevrolet Camaros. His father was Les Graham DFC, who was a Lancaster pilot in World War 2, the 1949 500cc world champion riding the AJS "Porcupine" twin, and who was killed on the MV four at the 1953 TT.
The most amazing thing about it is the hand change gearbox.
I’ve never seen anyone use a hand change bike in anger like that in my 30+ years of going to vintage bike racing.
Almost all vintage race bikes (in fact all but this BMW in this country!) that are still used competitively have now been converted to foot change. My dad stopped racing his vintage (ie pre-31) AJS in the 1960s as he was one of two still running hand change and he said he had no chance against foot change and couldn’t afford to change the gearbox to a foot change/positive stop gearbox.
Back in era many riders had all sorts of tricks like Corser was doing reaching across he tank, plus ‘blipper’ triggers on the gear lever and all sorts.
Hats off to BMW for letting these bikes race like this and hats off to Troy Corser for having a go on a hand change bike
I’ve never seen anyone use a hand change bike in anger like that in my 30+ years of going to vintage bike racing.
Almost all vintage race bikes (in fact all but this BMW in this country!) that are still used competitively have now been converted to foot change. My dad stopped racing his vintage (ie pre-31) AJS in the 1960s as he was one of two still running hand change and he said he had no chance against foot change and couldn’t afford to change the gearbox to a foot change/positive stop gearbox.
Back in era many riders had all sorts of tricks like Corser was doing reaching across he tank, plus ‘blipper’ triggers on the gear lever and all sorts.
Hats off to BMW for letting these bikes race like this and hats off to Troy Corser for having a go on a hand change bike
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