Audi R8, Nissan GT-R or C63. Need experts on all!
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Hi all,
I’m looking for a car that I can drive on weekends and special occasions. I keep changing my mind on what I want but I have narrowed it down to these cars (for now...)
I am looking for something exotic, fast and head turning. Something engaging but also not too fiddly (I would prefer an auto rather than a full manual). I have narrowed my selection down to the Audi R8 convertible (V8 or V10 - although I would probably get the V10), GT-R and C63 (new shape).
My budget is between £45-50k and I don’t want to go above this. The Audi R8 and GT-R will probably be around MY 08-10 and the C63 will be around MY 16-17.
Due to the age of the GT-R and the R8, is there anything I need to worry about with regards to wear and tear. I also havent heard great things about the R8 r-tronic gear box but haven’t driven one yet either.
All opinions welcome. What do you all think?
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a car that I can drive on weekends and special occasions. I keep changing my mind on what I want but I have narrowed it down to these cars (for now...)
I am looking for something exotic, fast and head turning. Something engaging but also not too fiddly (I would prefer an auto rather than a full manual). I have narrowed my selection down to the Audi R8 convertible (V8 or V10 - although I would probably get the V10), GT-R and C63 (new shape).
My budget is between £45-50k and I don’t want to go above this. The Audi R8 and GT-R will probably be around MY 08-10 and the C63 will be around MY 16-17.
Due to the age of the GT-R and the R8, is there anything I need to worry about with regards to wear and tear. I also havent heard great things about the R8 r-tronic gear box but haven’t driven one yet either.
All opinions welcome. What do you all think?
Thanks in advance!
Edited by Mdotlife on Sunday 9th September 22:48
I passed up on a 600bhp GTR to buy an R8 manual and never regretted it once. Better looking, nicer build quality, and a proper V8 or v10 howl.
If you can stretch to a v10 do it. Can't comment on the Merc/amg thingy bob however.
If you buy an R8 you must get one with a sports exhaust or budget to fit one, the noise is stunning.
If you can stretch to a v10 do it. Can't comment on the Merc/amg thingy bob however.
If you buy an R8 you must get one with a sports exhaust or budget to fit one, the noise is stunning.
Bernie_78 said:
Haven't driven a C63.
Very much depends on what kind of weekend driving you'll do but I got more involvement out of the R8 round a track, even though the GTR was significantly quicker.
Thanks for the reply. I’ll mainly be driving on more windy roads, dual carriageways and driving to social events (where appropriate). Very much depends on what kind of weekend driving you'll do but I got more involvement out of the R8 round a track, even though the GTR was significantly quicker.
200Plus Club said:
I passed up on a 600bhp GTR to buy an R8 manual and never regretted it once. Better looking, nicer build quality, and a proper V8 or v10 howl.
If you can stretch to a v10 do it. Can't comment on the Merc/amg thingy bob however.
If you buy an R8 you must get one with a sports exhaust or budget to fit one, the noise is stunning.
Sounds good. Out of interest, what made you pass on the GT-R?If you can stretch to a v10 do it. Can't comment on the Merc/amg thingy bob however.
If you buy an R8 you must get one with a sports exhaust or budget to fit one, the noise is stunning.
Mdotlife said:
Sounds good. Out of interest, what made you pass on the GT-R?
Because it neither looked as good or sounded as good as the R8 I bought. The R8 also has 2 yr service intervals. Don't get me wrong the GTR was blindingly fast but a big lump of a car and just not as special. For £50k there was a lot of choice around but I'm 100% glad I went R8.V10 is the prime choice though but go manual at that price point please if poss! This was mine, full carbon and extended leather etc.
200Plus Club said:
Because it neither looked as good or sounded as good as the R8 I bought. The R8 also has 2 yr service intervals. Don't get me wrong the GTR was blindingly fast but a big lump of a car and just not as special. For £50k there was a lot of choice around but I'm 100% glad I went R8.
V10 is the prime choice though but go manual at that price point please if poss! This was mine, full carbon and extended leather etc.
I must admit, that R8 looks sexy. Also, this might be a noob question, but why manual? What’s wrong with auto + paddle shift? V10 is the prime choice though but go manual at that price point please if poss! This was mine, full carbon and extended leather etc.
At 50k budget you'll probably get the earlier clunky auto and the manual is so much better. The later cars have the full fat auto box which is apparently very very good.
R tronic and S tronic are what you need to look into if auto is your choice. Can't recall which was better version
R tronic and S tronic are what you need to look into if auto is your choice. Can't recall which was better version
Edited by 200Plus Club on Monday 10th September 06:56
Edited by 200Plus Club on Monday 10th September 06:58
R-Tronic is the older box, S-Tronic is the newer box. The S-Tronic is regarded as being the much better option.
I was torn between a GTR and an R8 and ended up with a V10 Manual R8. Why did I choose the R8? Well it looks much better, I won't say its a supercar but it certainly looks like more of one than a GTR does. Why did I choose manual? Well I've heard the R-Tronic isn't very good and I believe that a NA, Manual V10 is a dying breed so future values should be strong
New shape C63 wouldn't even be on my register. for £45-50k I'd rather buy an M4 Competition with 100 miles on the clock or the previous shape C63 Edition 507 for £35k!
I was torn between a GTR and an R8 and ended up with a V10 Manual R8. Why did I choose the R8? Well it looks much better, I won't say its a supercar but it certainly looks like more of one than a GTR does. Why did I choose manual? Well I've heard the R-Tronic isn't very good and I believe that a NA, Manual V10 is a dying breed so future values should be strong
New shape C63 wouldn't even be on my register. for £45-50k I'd rather buy an M4 Competition with 100 miles on the clock or the previous shape C63 Edition 507 for £35k!
They're very different cars & only a test drive will tell you which one you prefer, the C63 for me isn't in the same league as the other two, it's a good car but not as special.
Having supplied both & having friends with both, I'm going to go against the grain & recommend the GT-R (if you can find a litchfield fettled one with a stage one & all the latest shift updates) it's a proper drivers car yes it doesn't have the V10 howl but that V6 TT has a character of it's own they're a bit grouchy when cold but that's just part of the cars character.
The R8 looks better & that Audi V10 is a cracker but as a drive I prefer the GT-R the front end for me doesn't feel quite as planted but we're talking personal opinions, if you're looking at V8's then for me the R8 doesn't get a look in.
Running costs for both are similar so as I said at the start test drives are the real answer as you'll know what floats your boat.
R8
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
GT-R
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
My leftfield option instead of the C63 would be the Maserati GranTurismo, yes it's more of a GT car (I couldn't fault mine & still miss it) but it feels special & they're a very nice place to be.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Having supplied both & having friends with both, I'm going to go against the grain & recommend the GT-R (if you can find a litchfield fettled one with a stage one & all the latest shift updates) it's a proper drivers car yes it doesn't have the V10 howl but that V6 TT has a character of it's own they're a bit grouchy when cold but that's just part of the cars character.
The R8 looks better & that Audi V10 is a cracker but as a drive I prefer the GT-R the front end for me doesn't feel quite as planted but we're talking personal opinions, if you're looking at V8's then for me the R8 doesn't get a look in.
Running costs for both are similar so as I said at the start test drives are the real answer as you'll know what floats your boat.
R8
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
GT-R
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
My leftfield option instead of the C63 would be the Maserati GranTurismo, yes it's more of a GT car (I couldn't fault mine & still miss it) but it feels special & they're a very nice place to be.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Tickle said:
Wouldn't something like a Maserati Grantourismo tick your exotic requirement more? Certainly more than a C Class Merc.
Do you know what, I have been looking at the GranTurismo and GranCabrio and just can't seem to like them. I feel like the Maserati is more of an "older gentleman's" car. Also, 0-60 in 5.2s for the GranCabrio sport, I'd want something a bit nippier. I had an R8 and a C63 at the same time a couple of years back. The C63is brilliant, but not a sports car. That engine up the front means that it responds far better to getting it lined up and p,anting the throttle than to carrying high corner speeds.
I used the AMG as the sensible everyday car, and the R8 for fun.
When I swapped cars, the R8 was replaced with a faster R8, the C63 with an F80 M3.
I used the AMG as the sensible everyday car, and the R8 for fun.
When I swapped cars, the R8 was replaced with a faster R8, the C63 with an F80 M3.
200Plus Club said:
At 50k budget you'll probably get the earlier clunky auto and the manual is so much better. The later cars have the full fat auto box which is apparently very very good.
R tronic and S tronic are what you need to look into if auto is your choice. Can't recall which was better version
I’ve had both, and while the earlier auto was quite agricultural I did think that it suited the car.R tronic and S tronic are what you need to look into if auto is your choice. Can't recall which was better version
Edited by 200Plus Club on Monday 10th September 06:56
Edited by 200Plus Club on Monday 10th September 06:58
I agree though, the newer box is far better, in pretty much all situations.
It also lets the faster versions do 0-60 in the same time as the McLaren F1.
I'm casually looking at similar with intention to get something next year (with exception of anything merc).
V10 R8 in manual guise - would be top end of what I'm wanting to spend really but a worthwhile endever as it's sure to have done all its depreciation now. Plus that v10.
V8 R8 not sure if it interests you.....yes slower but does it offer 9/10 of the experience of the v10 package for a bit less? I think I need a shot of a few to decide. As mentioned an aftermarket exhaust is a must to release the awesome notes.
GTR for a similar mile year condition you'd probably be talking probably 15k less than a v10 R8.
All very capable cars, I guess it comes down to which one you really want and or what you want to spend ultimately.
I've heard gtr is higher running costs! ? While Audi main dealer is very reasonable.
Both really cool cars and I think either will be a joy to own. I think my purchase will just be down to whatever car is best available at the right time for the right money.
V10 R8 in manual guise - would be top end of what I'm wanting to spend really but a worthwhile endever as it's sure to have done all its depreciation now. Plus that v10.
V8 R8 not sure if it interests you.....yes slower but does it offer 9/10 of the experience of the v10 package for a bit less? I think I need a shot of a few to decide. As mentioned an aftermarket exhaust is a must to release the awesome notes.
GTR for a similar mile year condition you'd probably be talking probably 15k less than a v10 R8.
All very capable cars, I guess it comes down to which one you really want and or what you want to spend ultimately.
I've heard gtr is higher running costs! ? While Audi main dealer is very reasonable.
Both really cool cars and I think either will be a joy to own. I think my purchase will just be down to whatever car is best available at the right time for the right money.
2yr service at local Audi for my R8 was £768 including 10l oil, and a brake fluid change. Plugs would have put £150 On that. Interim oil changes are £400 approx i believe. Not bad at all for main dealer. Loan car was a brand new Audi estate very nicely spec diesel which suited me as I went shooting in it :-)
If I were you I’d buy this absolute beauty: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I follow the owner on Instagram, the car is immaculate and sounds absolutely insane. A pristine low mileage 507 edition, one of the last proper 6.2 V8 AMG’s so should hold value very well if not appreciate!
I am biased though, W204 C63 is on of my favourite cars.
I follow the owner on Instagram, the car is immaculate and sounds absolutely insane. A pristine low mileage 507 edition, one of the last proper 6.2 V8 AMG’s so should hold value very well if not appreciate!
I am biased though, W204 C63 is on of my favourite cars.
Riggadig said:
If I were you I’d buy this absolute beauty: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
I follow the owner on Instagram, the car is immaculate and sounds absolutely insane. A pristine low mileage 507 edition, one of the last proper 6.2 V8 AMG’s so should hold value very well if not appreciate!
I am biased though, W204 C63 is on of my favourite cars.
Each to their own I suspect. Even a GTR looks sexy against that imho. I know they are a fabulous engine etc but it looks like a glorified taxi. V10 R8 for the win ! :-)I follow the owner on Instagram, the car is immaculate and sounds absolutely insane. A pristine low mileage 507 edition, one of the last proper 6.2 V8 AMG’s so should hold value very well if not appreciate!
I am biased though, W204 C63 is on of my favourite cars.
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