101k miles on a 2012 car???
101k miles on a 2012 car???
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dsgrnmcm

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405 posts

124 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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I have found a BMW F11 520d SE for £9999 but with 107000, just had a service and new brakes. Now I'm aware that the re sale value will be low, but surely the depreciation and high milage has already hit it? I will probably walk 13k miles a year on it, commuting back from work every weekend and I need something good on diesel and nice to be for 4 hours at a time.

My alternative would be a E61 but paying 8k for a 2008 or 2009 at 88k. Admittedly the M-Sport looks more menacing than the F11 SE.

Thoughts?

Dinoboy

2,597 posts

237 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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Id far rather have the 4 years newer car with FSH and 19k more miles.

Earthdweller

16,803 posts

146 months

Tuesday 18th September 2018
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I don’t think that’s a lot of miles for a rep spec 520d

What’s that .. about 18k a year ?

Lot of these do 30-40k a year on company fleets in their early years .. I’d hazard a guess at a 2 owner car .. 1st put 80-90k on it and the 2nd about 20k on it both over the same time period?

pb8g09

2,925 posts

89 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Isn't this a follow on from your previous post on changing your car?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

- Whereby a good number of people reckoned you should stick with the car you had? So you've created another post leaving out that you already own the better and cheaper option and just asking people which car is better?...

Each to their own I guess!... I'd take the newer, higher mileage example. 19k miles more on a diesel is not much more than a year's use assuming it's mileage is motorway.

Toed64

299 posts

140 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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If buying a BMW N47 diesel, you are MUCH safer buying the latest version of the motor, even if it has slightly higher mileage. Google N47 timing chain and you will realise why.

The most recent timing chain/tensioner improvement was (I was told by a BMW tech) in 2014.

dsgrnmcm

Original Poster:

405 posts

124 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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pb8g09 said:
Isn't this a follow on from your previous post on changing your car?

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

- Whereby a good number of people reckoned you should stick with the car you had? So you've created another post leaving out that you already own the better and cheaper option and just asking people which car is better?...

Each to their own I guess!... I'd take the newer, higher mileage example. 19k miles more on a diesel is not much more than a year's use assuming it's mileage is motorway.
Yep I did create this one, to focus on a young (fish) high mile car.

my man maths is £280 p/m in my A4 as opposed to £190 in a 520d (AVG mpg etc) plus road tax is half. But then I'm taking on another car with unknown problems.

pb8g09

2,925 posts

89 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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dsgrnmcm said:
Yep I did create this one, to focus on a young (fish) high mile car.

my man maths is £280 p/m in my A4 as opposed to £190 in a 520d (AVG mpg etc) plus road tax is half. But then I'm taking on another car with unknown problems.
No worries, it was tongue in cheeky anyway.

If the new question is now older or newer, higher vs lower higher mileage. I'd go with my original statement. Why not pay RAC £99 for them to check the car over first if you're worried about unknown problems?

dsgrnmcm

Original Poster:

405 posts

124 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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pb8g09 said:
No worries, it was tongue in cheeky anyway.

If the new question is now older or newer, higher vs lower higher mileage. I'd go with my original statement. Why not pay RAC £99 for them to check the car over first if you're worried about unknown problems?
No worries mate. TBH I have 4k to blow on a car and I'm reluctant to use anymore cash plus my car. I have been scouring for a E61, I missed out on a mint 520d 2005, all the packages etc. it was up for 3850. gutted is not the word.

The new one looks "Alright" but it is not m sport and looks a little naff. I have found a 525d E61 in Exeter so will have a look, only snag is it is a manual and I have been an Auto fatty for years.

or I could just do nothing, but cars are so addictive....

pb8g09

2,925 posts

89 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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dsgrnmcm said:
or I could just do nothing, but cars are so addictive....
Too true - just bought 2 cars in our household in the last 2 months and I'm still looking at things on Autotrader...

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Just wait until another car in the correct spec and right price comes along.

Deep Thought

38,253 posts

217 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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GreatGranny said:
Just wait until another car in the correct spec and right price comes along.
If the O/Ps budget is £10K ish that might take a while

From memory M Sports command £2,000-£3,000 more (the correct spec), and lower miles cars will also take him beyond budget.

EDIT..... although maybe not

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...



Edited by Deep Thought on Wednesday 19th September 13:03

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

211 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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My only problem with high mileage cars is that when you come to sell them, the value gets absolutely hammered, even if the car is in better condition than a lower mileage example.

Deep Thought

38,253 posts

217 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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james_gt3rs said:
My only problem with high mileage cars is that when you come to sell them, the value gets absolutely hammered, even if the car is in better condition than a lower mileage example.
Yes, they're harder work to resell unless the price is ultra low.

strath44

1,367 posts

168 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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I'm not 100% sure you'll see the economy gains you are hoping for versus your current car - I may be wrong!

Both those 520d msports linked above are pretty good value for the mileage!

You definitely want the more current model, I think you'll get a heap of niggles with the 2004/5 onward variant!

A900ss

3,297 posts

172 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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FYI, my F11 520d (touring) used to average a true 45MPG in normal driving and about 52MPG on a motorway run.

That was a 2012 version with the 8speed ZF. I had it for 3 years and 80k miles.

Before that I had a 320d touring. Slightly more economical, circa 53MPG and that did 120k in 3 years.

Nothing other than standard maintenance for both cars but they did start at zero miles. Good luck.

dsgrnmcm

Original Poster:

405 posts

124 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Wow thanks all,

So this afternoon I found a 525d 2010 E61, the last of that chassis, good spec even with the new I drive.

Now when I rang the guy, he almost ripped my head off, because I didn't watch his video and didn't bank transfer £100 to him in order to see his car! I have never heard of this sort of system? eventually when he stopped repeating himself, I simply asked that I was traveling that way tomorrow and would like to pop in, he kept referring to having to bank transfer £100 to him, he will only take bank transfers and does not operate the distance selling scheme.

Anyway sounded dodgy, I was not prepared to transfer anything to a stranger. He had mixed reviews on A trader.

Maybe it is a sign to stick with the O zone destroyer / point collector.

Dinoboy

2,597 posts

237 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Wouldn't go near it, imagine what he'll be like to deal with if you have any issues after purchase.
These aren't rare cars, they've sold thousands upon thousands of them over the last 10 years or so. There will always be another one along in a day or 2, you can afford to be choosy.

dsgrnmcm

Original Poster:

405 posts

124 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Dinoboy said:
Wouldn't go near it, imagine what he'll be like to deal with if you have any issues after purchase.
These aren't rare cars, they've sold thousands upon thousands of them over the last 10 years or so. There will always be another one along in a day or 2, you can afford to be choosy.
Good point!

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

187 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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It strikes me that you are looking for an executive car but only have bargain basement money. You already have a car that is a known quantity and are looking to replace it for economy reasons but any marginal gains in economy would be wiped out changing the car in the first place, never mind any bills that an old executive car is likely to serve up for you.

That F11 at £9995 is basically nearly new Fiesta money but already has a 6 figure mileage on it before you start to use it to commute in. Using your 107k 5 series to commute in when you've done most of the miles, had it a few years and know exactly how it has been maintained is one thing, but buying one with that amount of miles when in all honesty you don't really know how it's been treated is another altogether.

A colleague of mine bought a 56 plate E60 525i with 110,000 miles a few years ago and to cut a long story short it was a nightmare and at its best it was less reliable than my old 130,000 mile Civic was when I got rid of it. Maybe he didn't look after it properly, maybe it was a bad one, or maybe it was about what you expect from a car like that.

Were it me, I'd keep the car I had, unless there were signs of impending death and take good care of it puyting money aside for something significantly better when the time comes.

Jimmy Recard

17,547 posts

199 months

Wednesday 19th September 2018
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Willy Nilly said:
It strikes me that you are looking for an executive car but only have bargain basement money. You already have a car that is a known quantity and are looking to replace it for economy reasons but any marginal gains in economy would be wiped out changing the car in the first place, never mind any bills that an old executive car is likely to serve up for you.

That F11 at £9995 is basically nearly new Fiesta money but already has a 6 figure mileage on it before you start to use it to commute in. Using your 107k 5 series to commute in when you've done most of the miles, had it a few years and know exactly how it has been maintained is one thing, but buying one with that amount of miles when in all honesty you don't really know how it's been treated is another altogether.

A colleague of mine bought a 56 plate E60 525i with 110,000 miles a few years ago and to cut a long story short it was a nightmare and at its best it was less reliable than my old 130,000 mile Civic was when I got rid of it. Maybe he didn't look after it properly, maybe it was a bad one, or maybe it was about what you expect from a car like that.

Were it me, I'd keep the car I had, unless there were signs of impending death and take good care of it puyting money aside for something significantly better when the time comes.
Pretty much this. Stick with what you've got, if it seems ok at the moment.

The cost and hassle of switching cars will wipe out the 20p a week you'll save on fuel anyway. I could understand going from a 540i to a 520d to save fuel, but a 3.0 diesel Audi A4? It'll be a small difference, I bet