Robert Taylor print
Discussion
Hi all
I've had this rolled up safe in its original cardboard shipping tube for nearly 30 years, just re-discovered it at the weekend in the loft
Its a limited edition 1989 Robert Taylor aviation print signed in pencil by Erich Hartmann
I really should get it framed, something I've never got around to doing, any ideas on what £ I'd be looking at to get it professionally framed?
I've had this rolled up safe in its original cardboard shipping tube for nearly 30 years, just re-discovered it at the weekend in the loft
Its a limited edition 1989 Robert Taylor aviation print signed in pencil by Erich Hartmann
I really should get it framed, something I've never got around to doing, any ideas on what £ I'd be looking at to get it professionally framed?
You need to spec UV protective glass, and it's better to have them with a matted surround, all adds to the price of course, but you're looking at 150-175 quid probably.....but, its been 10 years since I last had one framed......so I might be a bit out of touch with prices...............and thus get a shock when I can get off my arse and take one in again to be done (only have one left needing to be framed now)
aeropilot said:
You need to spec UV protective glass, and it's better to have them with a matted surround, all adds to the price of course, but you're looking at 150-175 quid probably.....but, its been 10 years since I last had one framed......so I might be a bit out of touch with prices...............and thus get a shock when I can get off my arse and take one in again to be done (only have one left needing to be framed now)
That's helpful, thanks Aeropilot, didn't know about the glass in particular.Skii said:
aeropilot said:
You need to spec UV protective glass, and it's better to have them with a matted surround, all adds to the price of course, but you're looking at 150-175 quid probably.....but, its been 10 years since I last had one framed......so I might be a bit out of touch with prices...............and thus get a shock when I can get off my arse and take one in again to be done (only have one left needing to be framed now)
That's helpful, thanks Aeropilot, didn't know about the glass in particular.That is absolutely beautiful, I've got a Robert Taylor print "Typhoon Attack" which is slowly fading now after 20 years on display, so would recommend the UV glass aswell.
Two friends of mine collect prints, one has them all over his house framed up everywhere and fantastic they look too, although I don't think they are UV protected so must be going the same way as mine. The other friend bought loads of them in the 80s/90s as that generation died off and has them all stored professionally and never takes them out or does anything with them. Guess it's horses for courses, but I'm glad mine has been used rather than stored away in the chance of making a hundred quid or two in 20 or 30 years time.
As an aside I collect military flying logbooks (very geeky and sad I know
) from both RAF and Luftwaffe WW2 pilots and keeping them from fading is a constant challenge aswell. I keep them well out of light and would love to display them, but as they are truly a one-off I want to keep them intact for the future generation and the pen/pencil is very quick to fade after long periods exposed to natural light. Got some amazing ones - BF109 ace with 12 kills, Beaufighter pilot KIA, Ju188 recce pilot, FW190 attack pilot Squadron commander, Ju88/He177 and Me262 pilot...rare as hens teeth, 2TAF Typhoon pilot in Normandy etc etc.
Two friends of mine collect prints, one has them all over his house framed up everywhere and fantastic they look too, although I don't think they are UV protected so must be going the same way as mine. The other friend bought loads of them in the 80s/90s as that generation died off and has them all stored professionally and never takes them out or does anything with them. Guess it's horses for courses, but I'm glad mine has been used rather than stored away in the chance of making a hundred quid or two in 20 or 30 years time.
As an aside I collect military flying logbooks (very geeky and sad I know
) from both RAF and Luftwaffe WW2 pilots and keeping them from fading is a constant challenge aswell. I keep them well out of light and would love to display them, but as they are truly a one-off I want to keep them intact for the future generation and the pen/pencil is very quick to fade after long periods exposed to natural light. Got some amazing ones - BF109 ace with 12 kills, Beaufighter pilot KIA, Ju188 recce pilot, FW190 attack pilot Squadron commander, Ju88/He177 and Me262 pilot...rare as hens teeth, 2TAF Typhoon pilot in Normandy etc etc.Siko said:
That is absolutely beautiful, I've got a Robert Taylor print "Typhoon Attack" which is slowly fading now after 20 years on display, so would recommend the UV glass aswell.
Two friends of mine collect prints, one has them all over his house framed up everywhere and fantastic they look too, although I don't think they are UV protected so must be going the same way as mine.
I've got a dozen or so, all bought in the late 80's, and all framed (bar a couple) and all were done with UV protection glass, and all have been hung up for nearly 30 years now, and all are perfect, none faded.Two friends of mine collect prints, one has them all over his house framed up everywhere and fantastic they look too, although I don't think they are UV protected so must be going the same way as mine.
I also did make sure that none were ever hung on a wall that was exposed to direct sunlight for long periods.
Siko said:
As an aside I collect military flying logbooks (very geeky and sad I know ) from both RAF and Luftwaffe WW2 pilots and keeping them from fading is a constant challenge aswell. I keep them well out of light and would love to display them, but as they are truly a one-off I want to keep them intact for the future generation and the pen/pencil is very quick to fade after long periods exposed to natural light. Got some amazing ones - BF109 ace with 12 kills, Beaufighter pilot KIA, Ju188 recce pilot, FW190 attack pilot Squadron commander, Ju88/He177 and Me262 pilot...rare as hens teeth, 2TAF Typhoon pilot in Normandy etc etc.
Nice. ) from both RAF and Luftwaffe WW2 pilots and keeping them from fading is a constant challenge aswell. I keep them well out of light and would love to display them, but as they are truly a one-off I want to keep them intact for the future generation and the pen/pencil is very quick to fade after long periods exposed to natural light. Got some amazing ones - BF109 ace with 12 kills, Beaufighter pilot KIA, Ju188 recce pilot, FW190 attack pilot Squadron commander, Ju88/He177 and Me262 pilot...rare as hens teeth, 2TAF Typhoon pilot in Normandy etc etc.For a time in the 80's and 90's I also collected Hoffmann/Verlag wartime signed photopostcards as well, and was able to get some of the Luftwaffe pilots that never survived the war, or passed away before the start of the popularity of the signed print era that started in the early 80's, such as Bar, Molders, Wick, Schnell, Oesau, Balthasar, Müncheberg and few others.
aeropilot said:
Nice.
For a time in the 80's and 90's I also collected Hoffmann/Verlag wartime signed photopostcards as well, and was able to get some of the Luftwaffe pilots that never survived the war, or passed away before the start of the popularity of the signed print era that started in the early 80's, such as Bar, Molders, Wick, Schnell, Oesau, Balthasar, Müncheberg and few others.
Super job....stuff like that is worth it's weight in gold, although lots of forgeries around (Rudel, Marseille etc) so caveat emptor I guess! The finest bit of my small collection is an Ehrenpokal, or Honour Goblet, which was a silver (or silver plated) goblet awarded for outstanding achievement in aerial combat. I have a logbook (Flugbuch) and photo collection to a JU88 airgunner who flew throughout the first few years of the war from bombing Coventry in the Blitz to Russia to finally getting killed over Malta. I was contacted by an auction house who had his Ehrenpokal and award certificate for auction, ironically at the same time as I was looking to buy one anyway and bid on it...winning it by £25 over the max bid. So I reunited it all and it is a really special collection to me now as it's rare to have the goblet, certificate, photos and matching logbook with extensive combat history too....for a reasonable price. just don't tell my wife For a time in the 80's and 90's I also collected Hoffmann/Verlag wartime signed photopostcards as well, and was able to get some of the Luftwaffe pilots that never survived the war, or passed away before the start of the popularity of the signed print era that started in the early 80's, such as Bar, Molders, Wick, Schnell, Oesau, Balthasar, Müncheberg and few others.
Siko said:
aeropilot said:
Nice.
For a time in the 80's and 90's I also collected Hoffmann/Verlag wartime signed photopostcards as well, and was able to get some of the Luftwaffe pilots that never survived the war, or passed away before the start of the popularity of the signed print era that started in the early 80's, such as Bar, Molders, Wick, Schnell, Oesau, Balthasar, Müncheberg and few others.
Super job....stuff like that is worth it's weight in gold, although lots of forgeries around (Rudel, Marseille etc) so caveat emptor I guess! For a time in the 80's and 90's I also collected Hoffmann/Verlag wartime signed photopostcards as well, and was able to get some of the Luftwaffe pilots that never survived the war, or passed away before the start of the popularity of the signed print era that started in the early 80's, such as Bar, Molders, Wick, Schnell, Oesau, Balthasar, Müncheberg and few others.
I had always tried avoiding the more obvious names as you mention, although Wick and Molders would probably fall into that category.
Siko said:
That is absolutely beautiful, I've got a Robert Taylor print "Typhoon Attack" which is slowly fading now after 20 years on display, so would recommend the UV glass aswell.
Two friends of mine collect prints, one has them all over his house framed up everywhere and fantastic they look too, although I don't think they are UV protected so must be going the same way as mine. The other friend bought loads of them in the 80s/90s as that generation died off and has them all stored professionally and never takes them out or does anything with them. Guess it's horses for courses, but I'm glad mine has been used rather than stored away in the chance of making a hundred quid or two in 20 or 30 years time.
As an aside I collect military flying logbooks (very geeky and sad I know ) from both RAF and Luftwaffe WW2 pilots and keeping them from fading is a constant challenge aswell. I keep them well out of light and would love to display them, but as they are truly a one-off I want to keep them intact for the future generation and the pen/pencil is very quick to fade after long periods exposed to natural light. Got some amazing ones - BF109 ace with 12 kills, Beaufighter pilot KIA, Ju188 recce pilot, FW190 attack pilot Squadron commander, Ju88/He177 and Me262 pilot...rare as hens teeth, 2TAF Typhoon pilot in Normandy etc etc.
Very cool.Two friends of mine collect prints, one has them all over his house framed up everywhere and fantastic they look too, although I don't think they are UV protected so must be going the same way as mine. The other friend bought loads of them in the 80s/90s as that generation died off and has them all stored professionally and never takes them out or does anything with them. Guess it's horses for courses, but I'm glad mine has been used rather than stored away in the chance of making a hundred quid or two in 20 or 30 years time.
As an aside I collect military flying logbooks (very geeky and sad I know
) from both RAF and Luftwaffe WW2 pilots and keeping them from fading is a constant challenge aswell. I keep them well out of light and would love to display them, but as they are truly a one-off I want to keep them intact for the future generation and the pen/pencil is very quick to fade after long periods exposed to natural light. Got some amazing ones - BF109 ace with 12 kills, Beaufighter pilot KIA, Ju188 recce pilot, FW190 attack pilot Squadron commander, Ju88/He177 and Me262 pilot...rare as hens teeth, 2TAF Typhoon pilot in Normandy etc etc.My father has a few more Robert Taylors, all signed prints, Swansong - Gunther Rall, Spitfire - Johnnie Johnson and Douglas Bader, and Last flight Home - Bill Reid and Leonard Cheshire.
I recall a something years ago about Taylor using Airfix models to help him paint his aircraft scenes, not sure if it was true but makes perfect sense.
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