Corsas - when to change?
Corsas - when to change?
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V8V Pete

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2,536 posts

157 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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My Corsas are currently at 3.5mm on the rears and 4.5mm on the fronts. They will be coming off and winter wheels/tyres going on in November but I'm not sure if they will do another whole season next year or not. What mileage do people tend to get out of the rears and what tread depth do you tend to change them at? Thanks.

KevinBird

1,068 posts

238 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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How old are they? If 3 or possibly 4 years old change them regardless of wear

V8V Pete

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2,536 posts

157 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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All between 2 and 3 years old.

V8V Pete

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2,536 posts

157 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Anyone?

Oh no. Silly me. I forgot, you V12V bunch don't drive your cars for fear of them plummeting in value so will never have had to change the tyres. Just in case there's a few exceptions out there let me know what you think please.

quench

564 posts

177 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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Where are the wear bars?

I honestly don't measure tread depth, rather pay attention to the wear bars.

Why not try PS Cup2's as a replacement? I've never gone back to Corsas after I wore out my first set on my original V12V.

KevinBird

1,068 posts

238 months

Sunday 23rd September 2018
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V8V Pete said:
All between 2 and 3 years old.
Should be good for another year then go for MPS4S's

mafisher

87 posts

149 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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Hi Pete, I found after 3 years they went “off” in that they took longer to get heat into and didn’t have the same level of grip. They also seemed to be more prone to over heating on track.

V8V Pete

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2,536 posts

157 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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KevinBird said:
Should be good for another year then go for MPS4S's
quench said:
Where are the wear bars?

I honestly don't measure tread depth, rather pay attention to the wear bars.

Why not try PS Cup2's as a replacement? I've never gone back to Corsas after I wore out my first set on my original V12V.
Not down to the wear bars yet but not too far off on the rears.

I was going to replace them with Michelins but am still undecided on Cup 2 or PS4S. Not that I don't like the Corsas, just that seemingly everyone prefers Michelins now. I'm thinking PS4S over Cup 2 because the car is driven in the wet but I'll take any advice/experience anyone is prepared to share.

KevinBird

1,068 posts

238 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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The 4S is a much better tyre than a Cup 2 for 99% of the time

northernmedia

1,988 posts

169 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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V8V Pete said:
All between 2 and 3 years old.
My Corsa's barely last me a year biggrin

I think they recommend to change around 3mm.
Or keep going where the thrill level increases somewhat wink

northernmedia

1,988 posts

169 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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tongue out

JB65

146 posts

103 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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If I may - related to the above, Bridgestones on my MY12V8S also need replacement, bought car earlier this year with 15k km and still on original set biggrin. Appreciate your view on the best current replacement option out there!

mhurley

823 posts

164 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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I’ve got Crapstones on the front. When I put my foot down I can feel them struggling for grip. Think they are on about 3mm. Will be getting Mp4s when the time comes. Cheapest I’ve seen fronts is 195 fitted for 235/40/19

leerandle

834 posts

138 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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I've got a full set of used Pirelli P Zero tyres if anyone's looking for a second hand set, might do for winter......

235/40/19 - 7,32mm on both fronts
275/35/19 - 6,10mm & 6,02mm on the rears

Was hoping to get about £450ono for all 4.

Currently still on alloys, no punctures or repairs. Will be removed when sold.

Only reason for sale is that I have upgraded to 20" DBS alloys (with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S) and these are sitting in my garage.

Can deliver/drop off in and around south west/midlands.

Happy for you to come and see them.

AdamV12V

5,314 posts

208 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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V8V Pete said:
My Corsas are currently at 3.5mm on the rears and 4.5mm on the fronts. They will be coming off and winter wheels/tyres going on in November but I'm not sure if they will do another whole season next year or not. What mileage do people tend to get out of the rears and what tread depth do you tend to change them at? Thanks.
Corsa's come with just 6.5mm of tread when new, and of course the legal min is 1.6mm meaning they have 5mm of usable tread in their life.

Given you have around 4mm of tread depth this means you 2.5mm still to wear, so pretty much 50% of their initial depth left. I would recommend keeping them on this basis unless you have cash to burn. wink

V8V Pete

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157 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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JB65 said:
If I may - related to the above, Bridgestones on my MY12V8S also need replacement, bought car earlier this year with 15k km and still on original set biggrin. Appreciate your view on the best current replacement option out there!
The significant majority of recommendations are for the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and this is almost certainly what I will go for when the time comes.

V8V Pete

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Monday 24th September 2018
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AdamV12V said:
Corsa's come with just 6.5mm of tread when new, and of course the legal min is 1.6mm meaning they have 5mm of usable tread in their life.

Given you have around 4mm of tread depth this means you 2.5mm still to wear, so pretty much 50% of their initial depth left. I would recommend keeping them on this basis unless you have cash to burn. wink
That's helpful Adam and the way I think I will be going.

V8V Pete

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Monday 24th September 2018
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northernmedia said:
My Corsa's barely last me a year biggrin
Thanks for being the exception that proves the rule Matt biggrin

rovcallum

553 posts

174 months

Monday 24th September 2018
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I fitted MPS4S (replacing the old Bridgestones) on the front of my V8V earlier this year. I really noticed the improved grip on cornering.

But, I understand there is a trade off between grip and longevity. I have been led to believe that the MPS4S tyre will not last nearly as long as the old Bridgestone. The MPS4S tyres are much softer than the old Bridgestones - is that just an age thing?

I clock up around 5k miles per year, with plenty of "spirited driving", I suppose. I hope to get at least two seasons out of these MPS4S front tyres.
I'll be due new rear tyres sometime next year (existing Bridgestones are 5 years old) and will probably opt for the MPS4S variety only because they have proved good on the front.

But, people usually replace their tyres when they get
a) old and/or
b) worn.

When they get old, they get hard and lose their grip.
When they get worn, they lose their grip.

If I fit new rear Bridgestones, I would wager that they would actually give better grip than the existing tyres anyway.
Hence my apprehension to just go ahead and fit MPS4S all round.

Oh, and if I trade my car in to the AM Dealer, he will want to fit Bridgestones before he puts a Timeless sticker on it, so it does certainly affect the resale value.

V8V Pete

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2,536 posts

157 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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rovcallum said:
I fitted MPS4S (replacing the old Bridgestones) on the front of my V8V earlier this year. I really noticed the improved grip on cornering.

But, I understand there is a trade off between grip and longevity. I have been led to believe that the MPS4S tyre will not last nearly as long as the old Bridgestone. The MPS4S tyres are much softer than the old Bridgestones - is that just an age thing?
According to tyrereviews.co.uk (excellent website & videos) the PS4S scores much better in every category than the Bridgestone (including wear) so whoever told you the Michelin will not last as long appears to be wrong.

PS4S: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Michelin/Pilot-S...

Bridgestone: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Bridgestone/Pote...

rovcallum said:
Oh, and if I trade my car in to the AM Dealer, he will want to fit Bridgestones before he puts a Timeless sticker on it, so it does certainly affect the resale value.
Unless you're selling imminently I would not even consider this as a factor. Your car is for you so do what YOU want with it. And anyway, tyres cost much less than petrol biggrin