They walk among us....
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https://youtu.be/doSLyU-mz7Q
Unbelievable wear on rear discs, pads and caliper.
How the f
k do these people get away with it?
Unbelievable wear on rear discs, pads and caliper.
How the f
k do these people get away with it?Friend of mine used to run an MOT station and garage, I popped in one day and he was working on some little Peugeot hatch iirc, it was in for a service and he had picked up on an issue with the brakes, one of the pads had gone down to the metal and caused as you would expect that disc to start grinding away, he had told the customer it needed new discs and pads on the front, other side was worn but not metal to metal yet but as you do you replace the lot yes? Customer told him he didnt want all new discs as the other side was "ok for now".., could he just clean the disc up a bit and just do the one side! He refused to do the job and informed the customer it was dangerous, customer apparently didnt want to know and asked him to put it back together as is and he would take it elsewhere...
Camelot1971 said:
The garage is in Ireland so no MOT, although they do have a yearly inspection which seems to consist of some government bloke signing off anything if you slip them a few quid.
They have a yearly NCT there.....for those that bother to do it of course, which depends on enforcement.But as with most cops, speed is more important than anything that might actually relate to road safety.
And for the post above, surely if that garage is an MOT station too, there would be a legal obligation not to allow a dangerous vehicle back out of the workshop without at least reporting it to someone ? regardless if it was there for test or not. Surely they have the power to place a prohibition on such a vehicle so it cannot legally be driven away ?
As would happen here if a dangerous vehicle was presented to test.
This video reminds me of my daughters boyfriend's 3-year-old Focus, or of the state (nowhere near that shown in the video) it might be in if my daughter hadn't told me about it. She said the brakes were making a rasping noise, but the car was due for a service in a few weeks so he wasn't that bothered about it, saying the issue would be addressed then.
I asked him to let me hear it, so he drove forward a couple of metres and hit the brakes. That was all I needed to hear.
I dispatched him to ECP for pads, and set about removing the old ones. There was zero friction material left. None.
Luckily the disc was only, to my mind anyway, slightly marked, so it did not get replaced.
Fast forward to last weekend ... the guy he was going to use for the service had told him that he had to postpone the work for a couple of weeks. I said that I'd do it. Post-service, I didn't know how to clear the oil-change dash message, but told him that I'd "Google" it and sort it the next day.
When he came back, I issue the instruction as how to remove the message (ignition on, throttle to the floor, and the other foot on the brake for 15, or so, seconds).
About a minute later, I heard a racket that could only be described as akin to one where someone was trying to destroy an engine. I ran out of the house, gesticulating to him to stop.
You've guessed it ... he started the engine prior to the "throttle to the floor" bit.
They do indeed, as the title of this thread states, walk among us.
I asked him to let me hear it, so he drove forward a couple of metres and hit the brakes. That was all I needed to hear.
I dispatched him to ECP for pads, and set about removing the old ones. There was zero friction material left. None.
Luckily the disc was only, to my mind anyway, slightly marked, so it did not get replaced.
Fast forward to last weekend ... the guy he was going to use for the service had told him that he had to postpone the work for a couple of weeks. I said that I'd do it. Post-service, I didn't know how to clear the oil-change dash message, but told him that I'd "Google" it and sort it the next day.
When he came back, I issue the instruction as how to remove the message (ignition on, throttle to the floor, and the other foot on the brake for 15, or so, seconds).
About a minute later, I heard a racket that could only be described as akin to one where someone was trying to destroy an engine. I ran out of the house, gesticulating to him to stop.
You've guessed it ... he started the engine prior to the "throttle to the floor" bit.
They do indeed, as the title of this thread states, walk among us.
stevieturbo said:
And for the post above, surely if that garage is an MOT station too, there would be a legal obligation not to allow a dangerous vehicle back out of the workshop without at least reporting it to someone ? regardless if it was there for test or not. Surely they have the power to place a prohibition on such a vehicle so it cannot legally be driven away ?
As would happen here if a dangerous vehicle was presented to test.
This was a few years ago and as you say car wasn't in for test as it had a current MOT, what if it wasn't an MOT station just a general back street garage? I know current rules mean a dangerous vehicle cannot leave an MOT station if the defects are dangerous, but does that stand for a defect found by the general garage? As would happen here if a dangerous vehicle was presented to test.
Mikey G said:
This was a few years ago and as you say car wasn't in for test as it had a current MOT, what if it wasn't an MOT station just a general back street garage? I know current rules mean a dangerous vehicle cannot leave an MOT station if the defects are dangerous, but does that stand for a defect found by the general garage?
A normal garage would have no legal powers to put a prohibition notice on a vehicle...I'd like to think an MOT station would ?But perhaps there should be a means of reporting such things.
stevieturbo said:
A normal garage would have no legal powers to put a prohibition notice on a vehicle...I'd like to think an MOT station would ?
But perhaps there should be a means of reporting such things.
There is. You report the car as being driven and unsafe to the police, in the same way any member of the public could. They may then chose or not chose to act on that info depending on what's going on at the time I suspect.But perhaps there should be a means of reporting such things.
The NCT can only be carried out at a Government centre - no private garages. Leon (they guy in the video) sees it all the time.
He has done some videos on the state of cars that have "passed" the NCT but obviously haven't been looked at but was at pains to point out he didn't blame the people that work there....
Reading between the lines I imagine officials could make his life difficult if he publicly called out inspection places. It's really clear though that some NCT inspectors don't even look at the car.
He has done some videos on the state of cars that have "passed" the NCT but obviously haven't been looked at but was at pains to point out he didn't blame the people that work there....
Reading between the lines I imagine officials could make his life difficult if he publicly called out inspection places. It's really clear though that some NCT inspectors don't even look at the car.
That's nothing one of my customers daughter drove back from Germany to the UK somewhere in Europe the front brakes started grinding but no matter press on regardless. The pad back plate wore down so thin it came out between the disc and caliper carrier but never mind it's now braking on the piston carry on going, until the piston and disc wear down enough for the piston to come out of the caliper at this point the pedal went to the floor and the piston jammed the front wheel solid as luck would have it. Her dad was unimpressed I was lost for words and the car needed new discs pads a front caliper and carrier as the jammed piston had distorted it!
I bought an MG midget from the isle of man (no MOTs over there). Bodywork great, mechanicals very grotty, and it handled like a sofa rolling down the road on a beach ball ("yeah, they are all like that mate, seventies cars are like that").
That was OK though as my intention is to fully restore it and it was trailered home. So last weekend I stripped all the suspension off to be cleaned up and powder coated (or replaced). Not one bolt in the suspension system was more than finger tight and several simply weren't there!!! all the bushes were mangled because of this.
Yeah, so no MOTs over here now for 40+ year old cars must be a good thing eh?.... and it was being driven regularly up until I bought it.
That was OK though as my intention is to fully restore it and it was trailered home. So last weekend I stripped all the suspension off to be cleaned up and powder coated (or replaced). Not one bolt in the suspension system was more than finger tight and several simply weren't there!!! all the bushes were mangled because of this.
Yeah, so no MOTs over here now for 40+ year old cars must be a good thing eh?.... and it was being driven regularly up until I bought it.
Edited by TriumphStag3.0V8 on Wednesday 10th October 09:50
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