Where should I put £100k for two years ??
Where should I put £100k for two years ??
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Deangtv

Original Poster:

761 posts

250 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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I'm a 911?? I thought not too.

Basically, I'll be selling a property I have soon and will have around £100k left which I need to set aside for 2 years when i next look to move. I've never been in a position to be a saver before and i'd assume i should max out mine and the wives isa allowance??

Would there be any other opportunities I've missed? premium bonds??

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

NickCQ

5,392 posts

126 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Yeah, probably split it with the wife and buy premium bonds up to your allowance then use all the special savings account offers (santander 123 etc).
Wouldn't touch the stock market for a short period such as two years.

Probably can get 1% - 1.5% pre tax return but not much more

troika

2,147 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Marcus?

Nick928

365 posts

185 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Easy option would be a well managed fund such as one of the Lindsell Train ones through the likes of HL.
Haven't looked at the figures in the last few months but think it may well be averaging north of 10% pa

If you don't mind a little more effort (although not much) then either JV partnership or an investor bank for property development (no not Funding Circle type P2P leading).
A reputable borrower will give you first charge as security so very little if any risk. The investor bank I know only deal directly with borrowers that they know and trust so no issues and very good reputation. Returns of 15%+ annualised are about par for the course.

If you're looking for 1-1.5% then I'd just stuff it under the mattress, not much difference TBH.

Croutons

13,363 posts

196 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Nick928 said:
Easy option would be a well managed fund such as one of the Lindsell Train ones through the likes of HL.
Haven't looked at the figures in the last few months but think it may well be averaging north of 10% pa
Or it might be down about 3% over the last few weeks. I speak from significant personal exposure.


Edited by Croutons on Friday 28th September 08:01

HRL

3,358 posts

249 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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NoVetec

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203 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Stuart1961

88 posts

118 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Croutons said:
Nick928 said:
Easy option would be a well managed fund such as one of the Lindsell Train ones through the likes of HL.
Haven't looked at the figures in the last few months but think it may well be averaging north of 10% pa
Or it might be down about 3% over the last few weeks. I speak from significant personal exposure.

Do not listen to this douche.
A few weeks is hardly representative !

Lindsell Train has performed extremely well over many years.

3 months +6.92%

6 months +21.9%

1 year +29.74%

3 years +97.98%

5 years +162.93%

You need to spread your risk, so perhaps £50,000 in Premium Bonds and split the remaining £50,000 with 1/3rd in Fundsmith, Scottish Mortgage and Lindsell Train.


bitchstewie

67,731 posts

240 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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LT and Fundsmith have done very well for people who hold them (and I do) but I'd be very cautious about suggesting them (or any fund) as some kind of "sure thing" for someone who wants to put in £100K and be positive they will definitely have at least £100K 2 years later.

Point being you may have £140K 5 years later but that may be no use if you only have £70K at the point you need it.

xeny

5,482 posts

108 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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bhstewie said:
LT and Fundsmith have done very well for people who hold them (and I do) but I'd be very cautious about suggesting them (or any fund) as some kind of "sure thing" for someone who wants to put in £100K and be positive they will definitely have at least £100K 2 years later.

Point being you may have £140K 5 years later but that may be no use if you only have £70K at the point you need it.
This ^ . If you need to have your original capital in 2 years time, equities is a bad place to put it.

98elise

32,621 posts

191 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Croutons said:
Nick928 said:
Easy option would be a well managed fund such as one of the Lindsell Train ones through the likes of HL.
Haven't looked at the figures in the last few months but think it may well be averaging north of 10% pa
Or it might be down about 3% over the last few weeks. I speak from significant personal exposure.

Do not listen to this douche.
Why the name calling? I have a significant proportion of my investments in Lindsell Train and frankly the gains over the past few years have been amazing.

Earlier this year I pulled everything out expecting them to drop after a short burst upwards...and they just kept going up frown

I could have bought a nice car with the money I "lost" by not just leaving it with them!

The only caveat is that the growth they have had over the past 5 years cannot be sustained IMO.

Personally I would spread the 100k over at least 5 decent performing global funds. Review it every 6 months or so and move the worst performing to something better (or safer).

As with everything S&S based, you have to be prepared to lose money, and if that's not an option then you need to aim lower/safer.

Edited by 98elise on Friday 28th September 08:03

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Two years is too short a time to risk to equities.

I’d get £50k worth of premium bonds for each of you. You may get nothing, you might win £1m.

xeny

5,482 posts

108 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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98elise said:
Personally I would spread the 100k over at least 5 decent performing global funds. Review it every 6 months or so and move the worst performing to something better (or safer).
I've no hate, but I think that equities for a 2 year duration is a terrible idea.

The trouble is that even if you split it up across multiple funds, in a downturn their performance tends to be broadly correlated - in a major downturn, not much is going up. Look at this graph:

http://i.imgur.com/Sdg1UZd.jpg

OK, it's for UK equities not global, but for 2 years you're looking at ~40% likelihood of losing money.

Nick928

365 posts

185 months

Thursday 27th September 2018
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Croutons said:
Nick928 said:
Easy option would be a well managed fund such as one of the Lindsell Train ones through the likes of HL.
Haven't looked at the figures in the last few months but think it may well be averaging north of 10% pa
Or it might be down about 3% over the last few weeks. I speak from significant personal exposure.

Do not listen to this douche.
That was llittle unnecessary.
As others have said, a few weeks aren’t representative and over the longer term they have performed very well indeed. Also from personal experience.

Croutons

13,363 posts

196 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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98elise said:
Why the name calling?
I apologise. I misread the op, which I took to be the weekly request from someone who has 50-500k which they want back in 6-36 months.

These usually come with a request for no risk but a 5-12% return. In this case the op has not mentioned risk, so gambling over a short period might be acceptable to them.

Groak will soon be along to suggest 7 crack houses.

S9JTO

1,949 posts

116 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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Buy an appreciating car, use any remaining funds to max ISA allowances

kurt535

3,560 posts

147 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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be interesting to see what Marcus offers in a few months time; saving acct is the tip of the iceberg.

PostHeads123

1,180 posts

165 months

Friday 28th September 2018
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I want to put some £ in funds but one of the rules of my employer is I can only use Barclays Smart Investor and cant use HL, are these funds typically available to ALL brokers and will the charge be the same ?

cheers

S9JTO

1,949 posts

116 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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PostHeads123 said:
I want to put some £ in funds but one of the rules of my employer is I can only use Barclays Smart Investor and cant use HL, are these funds typically available to ALL brokers and will the charge be the same ?

cheers
Not necessarily, worth a check though and no