So, my engine's been rebuilt...
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Hi all,
So my 997 C2S is going to be back on the road in the coming few days, having suffered an IMS failure and having had a rebuild. It's been a long 3 months of s
tty hire cars and I'm really looking forward to getting her back.
It's been an expensive year...suspension work at the beginning of the year at £3,000 and now an engine rebuild. Obviously I've always known that running a car like this won't be like running a diesel focus. But I also hadn't figured on having to spend half it's value on repairs in the first six months of ownership. It kind of takes the shine off a bit, although it'll probably come back on my first hoon!
So now I'm thinking, what else can go wrong? Gearbox? Electronics? My wife's started asking if we should consider flogging it now, while it's all good and before anything else expensive goes wrong. Although I don't want to lose it, anything else of that magnitude would cause us problems.
So what do you all think? Is there anything else big that is likely to go wrong? Or can I expect a few years of just normal maintenance?
J.
So my 997 C2S is going to be back on the road in the coming few days, having suffered an IMS failure and having had a rebuild. It's been a long 3 months of s
tty hire cars and I'm really looking forward to getting her back. It's been an expensive year...suspension work at the beginning of the year at £3,000 and now an engine rebuild. Obviously I've always known that running a car like this won't be like running a diesel focus. But I also hadn't figured on having to spend half it's value on repairs in the first six months of ownership. It kind of takes the shine off a bit, although it'll probably come back on my first hoon!
So now I'm thinking, what else can go wrong? Gearbox? Electronics? My wife's started asking if we should consider flogging it now, while it's all good and before anything else expensive goes wrong. Although I don't want to lose it, anything else of that magnitude would cause us problems.
So what do you all think? Is there anything else big that is likely to go wrong? Or can I expect a few years of just normal maintenance?
J.
jezzaaa said:
Hi all,
So my 997 C2S is going to be back on the road in the coming few days, having suffered an IMS failure and having had a rebuild. It's been a long 3 months of stty hire cars and I'm really looking forward to getting her back.
It's been an expensive year...suspension work at the beginning of the year at £3,000 and now an engine rebuild. Obviously I've always known that running a car like this won't be like running a diesel focus. But I also hadn't figured on having to spend half it's value on repairs in the first six months of ownership. It kind of takes the shine off a bit, although it'll probably come back on my first hoon!
So now I'm thinking, what else can go wrong? Gearbox? Electronics? My wife's started asking if we should consider flogging it now, while it's all good and before anything else expensive goes wrong. Although I don't want to lose it, anything else of that magnitude would cause us problems.
So what do you all think? Is there anything else big that is likely to go wrong? Or can I expect a few years of just normal maintenance?
J.
No one can say what the future holds for your and your Porsche. So my 997 C2S is going to be back on the road in the coming few days, having suffered an IMS failure and having had a rebuild. It's been a long 3 months of s
tty hire cars and I'm really looking forward to getting her back. It's been an expensive year...suspension work at the beginning of the year at £3,000 and now an engine rebuild. Obviously I've always known that running a car like this won't be like running a diesel focus. But I also hadn't figured on having to spend half it's value on repairs in the first six months of ownership. It kind of takes the shine off a bit, although it'll probably come back on my first hoon!
So now I'm thinking, what else can go wrong? Gearbox? Electronics? My wife's started asking if we should consider flogging it now, while it's all good and before anything else expensive goes wrong. Although I don't want to lose it, anything else of that magnitude would cause us problems.
So what do you all think? Is there anything else big that is likely to go wrong? Or can I expect a few years of just normal maintenance?
J.
Generally, I buy cars with the intent to hold on to them a long long time. (Just got rid of my 16 year old 2002 Boxster with 317K miles.
But I also got rid of my 2003 996 Turbo with "just" 161K miles.
While the Boxster was relatively problem free -- though of course things did wear out: water pump, fuel pump, a wheel bearing, some other things; the only real biggie was the right cylinder bank VarioCam solenoid/actuator.
OTOH, the Turbo manifested one problem after another. This was "ok" while it was under CPO warranty but when that expired then of course I had to pay for addressing the problems out of pocket and it was not "ok".
(Years ago I bought another car new. It was in the shop a number of times but at around the time the warranty expired on miles it settled down and proved to be a reasonably trouble free car for another over 125K miles.)
Thought the Turbo might be like this but the problems just kept on coming.
Finally I had had enough and sold the car.
In your case you get rid of your current car and buy another and the other car proves to be a real problem, which might be mitigated somewhat if you get a car with a suitable warranty though you are faced with what to do after the warranty expires. Or decide to roll the dice with your current car and hand on to it and the car just goes from one problem to the next.
What do do? Flip a coin. My crystal ball is broken.
If you sell it now you will probably recoup most of what you spent, the bad news is you won't have a 911.
Personally I would keep the car now and just enjoy it. The worst case scenario with these cars is engine failure. You have just jumped that hurdle so from now on it should be fine.
You may have the odd expense like water pump failure etc but there you could have that problem with whatever car you buy to replace it.
Keep it, enjoy it and drive the pants off it is my advice
Personally I would keep the car now and just enjoy it. The worst case scenario with these cars is engine failure. You have just jumped that hurdle so from now on it should be fine.
You may have the odd expense like water pump failure etc but there you could have that problem with whatever car you buy to replace it.
Keep it, enjoy it and drive the pants off it is my advice
Getting the warranty could be a costly experience also though? From a conversation with my local OPC they inferred that the car would have to be in almost as new condition to qualify (the car did have full OPC history) and if it didn't reach the standards then remediation work would have to be carried out in order for it to qualify. I imagine remediation work done by Porsche could easily match/exceed the price of the warranty.
How this works in practice I don't know but something to consider
edit: I recall an inspection to quantify any remediation work required was about £200 which is reasonable to get an idea of where the car sits in terms of work needed.
How this works in practice I don't know but something to consider
edit: I recall an inspection to quantify any remediation work required was about £200 which is reasonable to get an idea of where the car sits in terms of work needed.
squareflops said:
Getting the warranty could be a costly experience also though? From a conversation with my local OPC they inferred that the car would have to be in almost as new condition to qualify (the car did have full OPC history) and if it didn't reach the standards then remediation work would have to be carried out in order for it to qualify. I imagine remediation work done by Porsche could easily match/exceed the price of the warranty.
How this works in practice I don't know but something to consider
edit: I recall an inspection to quantify any remediation work required was about £200 which is reasonable to get an idea of where the car sits in terms of work needed.
I seem to remember someone telling me that the Official Porsche warranty is only available if it's always been OPC serviced? Mine has been specialist services since 5 years old. How this works in practice I don't know but something to consider
edit: I recall an inspection to quantify any remediation work required was about £200 which is reasonable to get an idea of where the car sits in terms of work needed.
Also, I had a warranty...and they told me it was wear and tear/seizure and was therefore not covered! I am pointing solicitors at them as we speak on the basis that it wasn't therefore fit for purpose!
Edited by jezzaaa on Friday 28th September 13:52
woollyjoe said:
3rd party warranties aren't worth it to me... too many exclusions and capped claims etc.
This absolutely. When the specialist spoke to the warranty company, they were told that wear and tear, faults resulting from seizures and mechanical breakdown aren't covered. Fair enough the first one. But seizure not covered, even if caused by a component failure? And mechanical breakdown? How can that not be covered if it isn't wear and tear?? As I said, I've been talking to a specialist lawyer...I reckon it's worth a few hundred quid for some advice and a letter. I didn't think it was legal for companies to provide a policy that was nigh on impossible to claim on? Edited by jezzaaa on Friday 28th September 14:08
It's 2 years or 12,000miles.jonno_ said:
Who did your rebuild?
I've not heard of a single Hartech (full rebuild) that's had a significant issue with the engine.
If you've cleared that hurdle and has the suspension refurb, there is really only the gearbox left as a 'big bill' possibility.
Hi Jonno ... an independent specialist PIE performance rebuilt it. They're local to me and I know them well. I've not heard of a single Hartech (full rebuild) that's had a significant issue with the engine.
If you've cleared that hurdle and has the suspension refurb, there is really only the gearbox left as a 'big bill' possibility.
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