Brake disc & pad options - not looking to upgrade
Discussion
My discs and pads are due for replacement shortly, I am not looking to upgrade just replace the existing as i have had no complaints with the stock setup but if i can get some extra performance for no extra cost...
So I am looking to replace with grooved and crossed drilled discs and uprated pads, which i have sourced at a similar price to stock components.
Does anyone have any experience of the following discs and pads?
Black Diamond
Pagid
Red Dot
EBC pads
So I am looking to replace with grooved and crossed drilled discs and uprated pads, which i have sourced at a similar price to stock components.
Does anyone have any experience of the following discs and pads?
Black Diamond
Pagid
Red Dot
EBC pads
It depends what you're planning to use the car for. Ordinary production pads won't do. For normal road use you want what are called 'fast road' pads. But don't be fooled into going for the harder 'race' pad compounds, they aren't suitable for road use. Tarox XF are a pretty good fast road compound but DS2000/2500 are my favorite at the moment. EBC pads have their advantages on track but they are a mixed blessing and I'd suggest you stay away from these.
There are some very expensive discs out there (including very pretty ones with coloured surface finishes etc). At the end if the day they are all cast iron discs and there is no performance advantage over ordinary budget mass production discs. If you're experiencing brake fade on the track, then grooved discs can address this. No more than 6-8 grooves, get the sort where the grooves stop short of the edge of the disc. Do not under any circumstances fit drilled discs. Just don't. And if you are not experiencing brake fade then plain discs are best, they give more stopping power, less dust and less pad wear. You only need grooved discs if they are getting hot enough to start fading, which shouldn't normally happen on public roads. In fact I'd go so far as to say that if you're experiencing brake fade on public roads then there is probably something wrong with the car, or the driver.
There are some things you should do routinely to ensure the brakes to work properly:
clean the pad carrier each time you change the pads
clean and grease the caliper slides each time you change the pads
flush through with DOT 5.1 fluid
ensure the hoses are in good condition, if in doubt fit new braided hoses
after fitting new pads or discs, bed the pads in according to the manufacturers instructions. This makes a big difference and it always surprise me how many people don't bother and then complain when they get brake judder or ineffective brakes.
There are some very expensive discs out there (including very pretty ones with coloured surface finishes etc). At the end if the day they are all cast iron discs and there is no performance advantage over ordinary budget mass production discs. If you're experiencing brake fade on the track, then grooved discs can address this. No more than 6-8 grooves, get the sort where the grooves stop short of the edge of the disc. Do not under any circumstances fit drilled discs. Just don't. And if you are not experiencing brake fade then plain discs are best, they give more stopping power, less dust and less pad wear. You only need grooved discs if they are getting hot enough to start fading, which shouldn't normally happen on public roads. In fact I'd go so far as to say that if you're experiencing brake fade on public roads then there is probably something wrong with the car, or the driver.
There are some things you should do routinely to ensure the brakes to work properly:
clean the pad carrier each time you change the pads
clean and grease the caliper slides each time you change the pads
flush through with DOT 5.1 fluid
ensure the hoses are in good condition, if in doubt fit new braided hoses
after fitting new pads or discs, bed the pads in according to the manufacturers instructions. This makes a big difference and it always surprise me how many people don't bother and then complain when they get brake judder or ineffective brakes.
GreenV8S said:
after fitting new pads or discs, bed the pads in according to the manufacturers instructions. This makes a big difference and it always surprise me how many people don't bother and then complain when they get brake judder or ineffective brakes.
I had a customer once that complained of the braking effect of the new discs and pads i had fitted to his 306 S16.
Upon inspection the discs had been blued within an hour!!
The customer then asked me to replace them at my cost!!
I told him to go away
before i had to take my glasses off. Take it easy for the first 100/200 miles and avoid excessive braking within this time.
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