The bleak future for our cars...
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Dear All,
I have been having a slow-developing, dreadful premonition that these cars we love are all going to be made useless and worthless when they are banned from the road in the next 15 or so years...
I just can't see us being allowed to drive petrol cars on the roads indefinitely. They will be banned from town centres for sure, even if they can be driven somewhere.
What say you?
I would love to buy a 991.1GTS or keep my 997GTS, but what is the point of it in the long term if it's going to be worthless pile of metal.
Just keep our heads in the sand, or start preparing for the awful future?
I have been having a slow-developing, dreadful premonition that these cars we love are all going to be made useless and worthless when they are banned from the road in the next 15 or so years...
I just can't see us being allowed to drive petrol cars on the roads indefinitely. They will be banned from town centres for sure, even if they can be driven somewhere.
What say you?
I would love to buy a 991.1GTS or keep my 997GTS, but what is the point of it in the long term if it's going to be worthless pile of metal.
Just keep our heads in the sand, or start preparing for the awful future?
Well given you start by professing your love for cars, if you truly believe you only have 15 years of opportunity left, shouldn't you embrace it?
Moreover, what's really changed if your premonition comes true? Run one of those cars for 15 years and even if nothing changes you'll be left with diddly squat compared to the overall financial investment. You're effectively lamenting that there may be a possibility you'll lose your socks, when the status quo is that you'll lose your shirt and pants
Moreover, what's really changed if your premonition comes true? Run one of those cars for 15 years and even if nothing changes you'll be left with diddly squat compared to the overall financial investment. You're effectively lamenting that there may be a possibility you'll lose your socks, when the status quo is that you'll lose your shirt and pants
Phooey said:
Forgive me if I've been asleep recently but who says they are going to be banned in the next 15yrs? Maybe taxed a bit more... but banned? IMO it'll take more than 15yrs.
Governments are going to miss climate change targets... Internal Combustion Engine cars will be forced off the roads in order to help with this.Edited by Phooey on Friday 28th September 20:06
Some towns are already banning diesel engines from entering, petrol will be following shortly behind.
Look at the incoming "t charge", and congestion charge. It's going to be a drip drip drip until they're banned.
As Wolleyjoe says above, it's quite possible that by 2030 there will be no non-electric cars allowed to be sold. I can see that it will eventually be considered extremely un-politically correct to swan around in a gas-guzzler.
Edited by jackliebling on Friday 28th September 20:44
enjoy it while it lasts - and things may take longer to change than you suspect.
I don't do much city driving now, mostly rural and motorways though - and there is near zero chance of people out here surviving without diesel - think tractors, landrovers, trucks. So I'm keeping my 991.1 until it's wheels fall off and enjoying every drive in it. You never know, it might even appreciate? If they stop selling petrol I wonder if I can run it on cheap supermarket whiskey instead?
Anyway, if it's not considered PC by some, sod 'em.
If we all give up tomorrow we’ll make it happen tomorrow! Self fulfilling prophecy. I’m riding the arse out of mine.
Pulled up to two of the new Tesla’s recently. Man, what a dull box. Completely silent and pig ugly. Bloke inside it looked well depressed. If that’s the future, then it can f
k off 
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Pulled up to two of the new Tesla’s recently. Man, what a dull box. Completely silent and pig ugly. Bloke inside it looked well depressed. If that’s the future, then it can f
k off . .browngt3 said:
OP, I Wouldn't worry too much about what you read and hear in the media. As ever, plenty of doom mongering but nobody really knows what the future will bring. Just enjoy yourself.
Prediction: we will be driving combustion cars for many many years to come.
Yep, there's nowhere near the infrastructure for charging or even for the power generation that would be required for everyone to be driving EV.Prediction: we will be driving combustion cars for many many years to come.
Yes newer cars will become more and more hybrid, possibly all will need to be EV or Hybrid at some point but I think we'll be fine for a good while longer.
Worry about your petrol engined car when you start to see petrol stations closing... probably not in the next 25 yrs would be my bet
g7jhp said:
You'll change in 18 months, the roads will still be open then! 
When we finally get autonomous cars to take us to work I will happily buy one to get to work.
I will then keep a fun car for the lanes which I hope will be left for us luddites.
You won't be able to have both. Weekend toys won't support the current infrastructure.When we finally get autonomous cars to take us to work I will happily buy one to get to work.
I will then keep a fun car for the lanes which I hope will be left for us luddites.
This somewhat morose view of the future for ICE cars came up on another thread the other day...and I'm sure it won't be the last.
My views:
Restrictions on use are possible yes (indeed already happening in some city centres), but outright bans on owning, no I doubt it - it will just cost more.
Bans would p1ss a lot of people off, and governments depend on votes let's not forget. The market for classic cars is huge, and that's exactly what they'll be by the time this st gets real.
Once hybrid/electric/hydrogen do become the mainstream, the wk3rs That Be will focus their attention on taxing THOSE vehicles and not our gracefully antiquated petrol powered sports cars.
All imho of course
My views:
Restrictions on use are possible yes (indeed already happening in some city centres), but outright bans on owning, no I doubt it - it will just cost more.
Bans would p1ss a lot of people off, and governments depend on votes let's not forget. The market for classic cars is huge, and that's exactly what they'll be by the time this s
t gets real.Once hybrid/electric/hydrogen do become the mainstream, the w
k3rs That Be will focus their attention on taxing THOSE vehicles and not our gracefully antiquated petrol powered sports cars.All imho of course
The future of ICE cars is bleak not just because of legislation but simply because in 10 to 15 years time because of advances in battery tech and a collapse in prices for the tech 99% of the motoring population won't even consider anything other than an EV purely on cost grounds. I was at an event last week at which Ian McCallum spoke....he's currently working on the Jaguar's that we'll be seeing in 2025/6....no idea what they were but they're EV. He was adamant it's the future.
Legislation has done it's job in forcing manufacturers to pursue EV with full vigour...it's now really R&D and the economies of scale that will make EV the dominant tech
As for owning cars in cities....that's probably a dated way of living if you ask your average 25 to 30 year old living in London I think very few own them. Certainly the ones I worked with didn't. For most people it's Uber, short term hourly car rental etc with the first car generally being bought when necessitated by kids.
Legislation has done it's job in forcing manufacturers to pursue EV with full vigour...it's now really R&D and the economies of scale that will make EV the dominant tech
As for owning cars in cities....that's probably a dated way of living if you ask your average 25 to 30 year old living in London I think very few own them. Certainly the ones I worked with didn't. For most people it's Uber, short term hourly car rental etc with the first car generally being bought when necessitated by kids.
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