Parking on pavement
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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Is parking on the pavement outside of London illegal?
A couple of my neighbours have mentioned that the council have been driving round taking photos of cars parked on the pavement and issuing fines of up to £700...
The street I’m on is bad for parking and a lot of cars tend to park entirely on the pavement, however it’s a quiet cul de sac so doesn’t really cause any issues.
Personally I don’t believe it and can’t find anything online to back it up

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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Zor600 said:
Is parking on the pavement outside of London illegal?
In general, parking on footways throughout London is specifically prohibited unless it is signed otherwise.

Outside of London (and ignoring the offences of driving on a footway and obstruction), the contrary is true..

Pica-Pica

16,606 posts

114 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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Our local bobby told us it was only illegal if it was causing a real obstruction. That is a pushchair had to be pushed into the road to get by. I disagree, but there you go.

Somewhatfoolish

5,083 posts

216 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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SS2. said:
Zor600 said:
Is parking on the pavement outside of London illegal?
In general, parking on footways throughout London is specifically prohibited unless it is signed otherwise.

Outside of London (and ignoring the offences of driving on a footway and obstruction), the contrary is true..
Where is London, for the purposes of this law? GLA boundries?

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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32 London Boroughs & the City of London.

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Saturday 29th September 2018
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4rephill

5,168 posts

208 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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It's illegal to park on the pavement in London, but not illegal to park on the pavement outside of London.

However, it is an offence to drive on a pavement, and so it could be argued to that to park on a pavement, you have to have driven on the pavement.

Personally speaking, people parking on pavements pi$$es me off!

Not only does it more often than not restrict the pavement access, but where I live, people park on both pavements opposite each other, leaving pedestrians with no option but to walk in the road, and leave a gap in the middle of the road that you can barely get a small hatchback through!

I was awoken one morning in the week at 2.15am by the sounds of sirens, and flashing lights, as the fire brigade were trying to get to a house fire, but couldn't get past the cars parked on both sides of the road, on the pavements, as the gap between them was too small.

Firemen were running up and down the street hammering on doors, trying to find the car owners to get them to move their cars (which some did - In their pyjama's/dressing gowns), but loads of owners couldn't be found, and so the fire engines remained stuck.

In the end, the firemen were trying to bounce cars out of the way, whilst one car had it's front wing stoved in when the engine driver simply shoved it out the way at slow speed.

It was @ 2.40am before the engines could finally get through - A 25 minute delay!

Had there been no cars parked on the pavement, the engines could have got to the house on fire without an issue (Luckily enough, the fire was restricted to only one room, but the delay could have resulted in a much worse outcome)

The next day there were notices put on all the cars, from the fire brigade, informing owners that their parking had stopped the fire engines from getting through, which resulted in.........absolutely no change whatsoever! The same cars still parked in the same stupid manner! mad

I for one, would love to see parking on pavements made illegal throughout the Country!




Heidfirst

200 posts

117 months

Sunday 30th September 2018
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4rephill said:
I for one, would love to see parking on pavements made illegal throughout the Country!

Living somewhere similar (although our pavements are wide enough to still get a double pram through & the street wide enough to get a truck through) I understand your position but where are all the cars that currently park in Victorian etc. streets without off-street parking possible going to park then? You are going to remove at least 50% of the parking capacity from them.

For the op where I live in Glasgow the police have said that they would actually have to see you driving onto the kerb to be able to issue anything.

Edited by Heidfirst on Sunday 30th September 15:39

R0G

5,036 posts

185 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Driving on the pavement is illegal - how do you get on/off the pavement - you have to drive on it !!

Heidfirst

200 posts

117 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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as I stated above the police here have said that they would actually have to catch you in the act - the fact that a car could ony have got there by being driven on the pavement is immaterial.

grumpy52

6,064 posts

196 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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We had a battle with the council over damaged kerbs , paving slabs and churned up verges.
They claimed it was due to the number of residents parking on pavements illegally and would be prosecuting offenders .
They went very quiet when it was discovered that the damage was being caused by council bin wagons and maintenance vehicles .

Jarcy

1,559 posts

305 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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R0G said:
Driving on the pavement is illegal - how do you get on/off the pavement - you have to drive on it !!
I drive across the pavement outside my house every morning and evening. How else does one get access?

lyonspride

2,978 posts

185 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Pavement parking bugs me most when there was absolutely no benefit in doing so.... ie the road is still not wide enough for two cars to pass, all this does is block the footpath in question, as well as encourage people to try to squeeze through the gap and end up smashing a wing mirror off.

Sheepshanks

41,065 posts

149 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Jarcy said:
I drive across the pavement outside my house every morning and evening. How else does one get access?
It's OK if there's a dropped kerb.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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The local travelling traffic wardens have taken to calling into our village lately. Anyone parked on the pavement in front of the local shops gets a ticket.

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Grahamdub said:
The local travelling traffic wardens have taken to calling into our village lately. Anyone parked on the pavement in front of the local shops gets a ticket.
For what offence / contravention ?

heebeegeetee

30,143 posts

278 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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SS2. said:
For what offence / contravention ?
Driving on a pavement? Obstruction?

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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heebeegeetee said:
SS2. said:
For what offence / contravention ?
Driving on a pavement? Obstruction?
Double yellows ? Zigzags ?

If folks are getting ticketed, it would be interested to know specifics - it could be unrelated to the footway.

Zigster

2,003 posts

174 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Heidfirst said:
as I stated above the police here have said that they would actually have to catch you in the act - the fact that a car could ony have got there by being driven on the pavement is immaterial.
I think that translates as "can't be bothered". I find it hard to believe that the police have to catch someone in the act of breaking the law, and aren't able to consider pretty conclusive evidence that the person broke the law while the police weren't looking.

Zigster

2,003 posts

174 months

Monday 1st October 2018
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Jarcy said:
R0G said:
Driving on the pavement is illegal - how do you get on/off the pavement - you have to drive on it !!
I drive across the pavement outside my house every morning and evening. How else does one get access?
Rule 145
You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.