Golf gtd or gti

[c.mckell88]

Hi guys as above im undersided what way to go Golf mk7 gti or gtd ? My head says gtd my heart gti ?

I cover around 20k a year about 70mile commute 5days a week from southampton to Portsmouth probably 60% motorway . I currently have a cheap to run bmw 120d coupe and want somthing more fun for when i want to have a play (evey now and then) however the cost of running a gti concens me as iv previously owned a astra vxr and that was costing way to much on fuel for the same commute however i had so much fun in the vxr ? Theres also the currnet hate against dielsel fumes and i plan on keeping the car for a few years

Thanks for the help

[S9JTO]

GTI for sure, you can't really have much fun in a GTD IMO...

I'd expect the GTI will return mid-high 30's at a bare minimum on a 70 mile motorway/A-road slog, if not low/mid 40's...

[MissChief]

S9JTO said:

GTI for sure, you can't really have much fun in a GTD IMO...

I'd expect the GTI will return mid-high 30's at a bare minimum on a 70 mile motorway/A-road slog, if not low/mid 40's...

A mk 5 GTi will do 40MPG+ with cruise on so I'd definitely go GTI. Modern turbo lumps are actually very efficient at constant speed.

[Haltamer]

Depending on the constraints on running cost, might it work out cheaper to get a cheap fun car, like an MX5 or similar for the weekend, and a diesel for the commute? Obviously, this doubles up your tax / insurance costs (Unless multicar), so the fuel savings would need to be worthwhile.

[ManOpener]

MissChief said:

S9JTO said:

GTI for sure, you can't really have much fun in a GTD IMO...

I'd expect the GTI will return mid-high 30's at a bare minimum on a 70 mile motorway/A-road slog, if not low/mid 40's...

A mk 5 GTi will do 40MPG+ with cruise on so I'd definitely go GTI. Modern turbo lumps are actually very efficient at constant speed.

On a motorway-focused drive keeping under 75, I'd expect mid 40s- probably around 45- from a GTI. I've managed 46 out of an M140i several times now.
The GTI is a much more enjoyable drive- better handling, sweeter engine.

[Nickp82]

As above, the 2.0 TSi is pretty efficient on long runs - our Leon Cupra 290 will get up to 40mpg. I have had a few GTDs as company cars and they are very good all-rounders but I would definitely go for the GTi.

[pb8g09]

Given it's a 23 mile distance between Southampton and Pompey on the M27 I'd argue where your huge mileage is coming from?!

Nonetheless, if you're doing the M27 during rush hour, you won't get decent mpg in either as it's mostly stop/start?

(P.s. I'm trying to hint that you should get the GTi.... )

[iphonedyou]

Haltamer said:

Depending on the constraints on running cost, might it work out cheaper to get a cheap fun car, like an MX5 or similar for the weekend, and a diesel for the commute? Obviously, this doubles up your tax / insurance costs (Unless multicar), so the fuel savings would need to be worthwhile.

I love PH.

OP - Golf GTI or GTD?

PH'er - MX5.

[c.mckell88]

pb8g09 said:

Given it's a 23 mile distance between Southampton and Pompey on the M27 I'd argue where your huge mileage is coming from?!

Nonetheless, if you're doing the M27 during rush hour, you won't get decent mpg in either as it's mostly stop/start?

(P.s. I'm trying to hint that you should get the GTi.... )

Sorry to be precise i live more new forest but its classes as sounthampton 33mile each way to work so i rounded it up a little lol

Lucky i miss rush hour so i can keep to 70 on the way in then have some fun on the way home (sometimes)

[pb8g09]

c.mckell88 said:

Sorry to be precise i live more new forest but its classes as sounthampton 33mile each way to work so i rounded it up a little lol

Lucky i miss rush hour so i can keep to 70 on the way in then have some fun on the way home (sometimes)

Lucky you!- I used to do the same commute the opposite way around in rush hour. Not a pleasant place to be.

Having run a petrol and a diesel on that commute, I did notice a difference in mpg, however that was before diesel had crept up so much at the pumps.

You only live once, driving around the forest in a GTi would be miles better. Just watch out for the horses!

[c.mckell88]

Unfortunately 2 cars are out if the question as need to be doubled as a family car at weekedn so would be a 5door gti or gtd

My current 120d runs an average of 54mpg however im happy to pay abit more at the pumps for some more fun just do t want it to be a silly amount more like my vxr was ?

[rustyuk]

I did 40k in a Mk7 GTD over 2 years, averaged around 45 mpg. Always in Sport mode.

[Andy-6ufnp]

My wife's just changed from a manual GTD to an DSG Golf R and the fuel consumption increase is v noticeable and also the R's lack of low down torque in comparison.
I'm a petrolhead and must admit the GTD is a great commuting car and CAN be fun on the weekends, is surprisingly quick but sounds pretty dull. If your'e that concerned about fuel costs then get the GTD and accept the compromise that low fuel consumption will offer you. A GTD will handle just as good as a GTi unless you are on a track, it has far superior torque so it's more about the engine note and lack of a higher rev limit as you can't rev a diesel engine that high.
For your journey my pick would be the diesel.

[c.mckell88]

Andy-6ufnp said:

My wife's just changed from a manual GTD to an DSG Golf R and the fuel consumption increase is v noticeable and also the R's lack of low down torque in comparison.
I'm a petrolhead and must admit the GTD is a great commuting car and CAN be fun on the weekends, is surprisingly quick but sounds pretty dull. If your'e that concerned about fuel costs then get the GTD and accept the compromise that low fuel consumption will offer you. A GTD will handle just as good as a GTi unless you are on a track, it has far superior torque so it's more about the engine note and lack of a higher rev limit as you can't rev a diesel engine that high.
For your journey my pick would be the diesel.

Great conparison thank you .

Does the thought of possible diesel tax in cities make you think otherwise as id be keeping the car a while ?

[Jonesy1972]

Not sure if this will help, but....i’ve got an 18 plate 2.0 TSI Scirocco and have a 64 mile round trip each day, mixed A road and dual carriage way. This morning took it easy, 50/60 mph on A road and 75 mph on dual carriageway (in between many roundabouts!). Achieved indicated 49mpg average on trip computer, coming home I was substantially more enthusiastic and showed 36mpg average. Personally, I’d go petrol, as I’m too old not to have fun!

Jonesy

[anonymous-user]

The R is considerably heavier on fuel than the GTi, the engine’s in a much higher state of tune and it’s got the 4WD system to lug around.

[c.mckell88]

From what iv seen in genral real world mpg they are quite close

Gti = 40ish mpg average
Gtd = 45ish mpg average

Obviously that differs from driver to driver and road to road but thats a big difference from the vw quoted mpg

[Jag_NE]

Pretty straight forward calc in my opinion. Assuming you achieve the “urban” mpg figure which shouldn’t be unrealistic on a 70 mike round trip, petrol is 34mpg published and the diesel 53.

At 20000 miles a year and assuming 6 quid a gallon the petrol will cost you roughly a hundred quid more a month to run.

If you are buying a euro6 diesel post 2015/16 don’t worry about it being banned you will kill it before that happens.

Basically, is the petrol sufficiently better to warrant an extra 100 a month in fuel costs. That will vary from person to person.

Residuals probably aren’t a factor if you are going to run it for a while as you will deplete it’s value fairly quickly at 20k miles a year.

[indestructible focus]

Our mk7 GTI averages 40 mpg, stick to 70ish on the motorway mind.

Extending the lease for another year, could save on fuel getting a basic disel that does 60mpg but for £10 a week more it makes a cracking drive.

[Ahbefive]

I would definitely pay the extra £1k per year to not have to drive a hateful diesel that doesn't rev or have to put the glove on to use the nasty black pump.