Semi skilled/Handyman/Joiner
Discussion
Dont know how to start this really, but I’m seeking advice if there’s anything that can be done for the following situation that has presented itself in my work place .
We have 4 semi skilled,4handy men and 4 joiners amongst other various trades at work .
My issue is in the last 12 month we’ve learned that the handy men have had a pay rise and are getting paid more than the time served joiners. That pay rise is also a good £300 more a month than the semi skilled lads who always thought they were on the same money( basically do the same job).
This has caused some ill feelings to say the least.
This can’t be right surly, the joiners have a greater skill set and more responsibility
What can be done about this ?
We have 4 semi skilled,4handy men and 4 joiners amongst other various trades at work .
My issue is in the last 12 month we’ve learned that the handy men have had a pay rise and are getting paid more than the time served joiners. That pay rise is also a good £300 more a month than the semi skilled lads who always thought they were on the same money( basically do the same job).
This has caused some ill feelings to say the least.
This can’t be right surly, the joiners have a greater skill set and more responsibility
What can be done about this ?
PapaJohns said:
Dont know how to start this really, but I’m seeking advice if there’s anything that can be done for the following situation that has presented itself in my work place .
We have 4 semi skilled,4handy men and 4 joiners amongst other various trades at work .
My issue is in the last 12 month we’ve learned that the handy men have had a pay rise and are getting paid more than the time served joiners. That pay rise is also a good £300 more a month than the semi skilled lads who always thought they were on the same money( basically do the same job).
This has caused some ill feelings to say the least.
This can’t be right surly, the joiners have a greater skill set and more responsibility
What can be done about this ?
were the handymen below minimum wage and its been brought up to meet it. We have 4 semi skilled,4handy men and 4 joiners amongst other various trades at work .
My issue is in the last 12 month we’ve learned that the handy men have had a pay rise and are getting paid more than the time served joiners. That pay rise is also a good £300 more a month than the semi skilled lads who always thought they were on the same money( basically do the same job).
This has caused some ill feelings to say the least.
This can’t be right surly, the joiners have a greater skill set and more responsibility
What can be done about this ?
but thats £3600 MORE a year a pay rise I would envy. what was the reason they got such a raise that sounds a very generous employer who has to find at least an extra £14,400 before pension for the 4 guys. I take it the business is on a real roll?
ToothbrushMan said:
were the handymen below minimum wage and its been brought up to meet it.
but thats £3600 MORE a year a pay rise I would envy. what was the reason they got such a raise that sounds a very generous employer who has to find at least an extra £14,400 before pension for the 4 guys. I take it the business is on a real roll?
Thanks for your reply. but thats £3600 MORE a year a pay rise I would envy. what was the reason they got such a raise that sounds a very generous employer who has to find at least an extra £14,400 before pension for the 4 guys. I take it the business is on a real roll?
As you’ve rightly pointed out that is £3600 a yer more than the semi skilled lads , but the pay gap is less for us joiners and painters by about £800 a year I believe( still £800 more) .
It would seem a former manager who was left in charge of sorting out the implication of the new shift pattern back in May/April has allowed this to happen. And it’s only come to light as we were all over looked for a recent 2% pay increase. The new manager has only discussed every ones monthly salaries and that we will get the 2% pay rise in due course, but this just widens the pay increase even more as we all get a 15% shift allowance
Moral wasn’t that great to start with, now this has presented it self
Iv spoke with ACAS and all they could suggest was asking them if they can justify why there paid more .
How do you play hard ball without getting into trouble lol
Ultimately, it's all down to how much you think you are valued by the organisation. Fundamentally you have no right to be paid more than anybody else, whatever your feelings on the matter.
When you get down to it, are you prepared to walk from the job if they don't increase your pay? Are all the joiners of the same mind?
This is where a union is invaluable - collective representation from an independent party will show that you are serious and not just having a whinge.
When you get down to it, are you prepared to walk from the job if they don't increase your pay? Are all the joiners of the same mind?
This is where a union is invaluable - collective representation from an independent party will show that you are serious and not just having a whinge.
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