DAS Courses - Mod 1 Fail
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I was chatting to a guy yesterday who is currently on a week-long DAS course hoping to pass his Mod 2 on Friday and head home with a full licence all kitted up and ready to start selecting his first motorcycle.
Anyway, he was made up yesterday because he had just passed his mod 1 so he will now continue his training to ensure he is competent and ready to face the challenge of his Mod 2 test.
But he mentioned something that was quite interesting and which I hadn't thought about before in relation to these intensive DAS courses. He is doing the course with three other newbies so four of them in total. But he was the only one that passed the Mod 1 yesterday and the other three people on the course all failed.
Of course all of them have set out on the week-long training course expecting to get a full licence at the end of the week. So the three that have failed mod 1 didn't want to hang around for the remaining half of the week because they can't do their Mod 2 until they have repeated mod 1 which apparently you can't do straightaway - they have to wait at least three working days before they can try again.
The guys that had failed mod 1 wanted to leave and save their remaining 2 1/2 days training for when they can come back and try Mod 1 again. But the organisers of the course obviously aren't willing to do that because they have already committed to a full week of training as well as booking and paying for the mod 2 test on Friday.
It must be a bit disappointing for all of them I guess.
The guy I talked to said he was pretty nervous doing the Mod 1 test because he was the last of the 4 to go round and he had already seen the first three fail. So it didn't do much for his confidence I expect. He was pleased as punch that he had passed it, but I guess felt quite sorry for the other three guys on the course.
Anyway, he was made up yesterday because he had just passed his mod 1 so he will now continue his training to ensure he is competent and ready to face the challenge of his Mod 2 test.
But he mentioned something that was quite interesting and which I hadn't thought about before in relation to these intensive DAS courses. He is doing the course with three other newbies so four of them in total. But he was the only one that passed the Mod 1 yesterday and the other three people on the course all failed.
Of course all of them have set out on the week-long training course expecting to get a full licence at the end of the week. So the three that have failed mod 1 didn't want to hang around for the remaining half of the week because they can't do their Mod 2 until they have repeated mod 1 which apparently you can't do straightaway - they have to wait at least three working days before they can try again.
The guys that had failed mod 1 wanted to leave and save their remaining 2 1/2 days training for when they can come back and try Mod 1 again. But the organisers of the course obviously aren't willing to do that because they have already committed to a full week of training as well as booking and paying for the mod 2 test on Friday.
It must be a bit disappointing for all of them I guess.
The guy I talked to said he was pretty nervous doing the Mod 1 test because he was the last of the 4 to go round and he had already seen the first three fail. So it didn't do much for his confidence I expect. He was pleased as punch that he had passed it, but I guess felt quite sorry for the other three guys on the course.
I guess that is the chance you take trying to get the license in a week. My license took 6 months nearly from CBT - full, only failed one MOD1, all the other issues were how busy the test center was and 2-3 times they cancelled on me.
Mod 1 is a killer, I was close to giving up - put my foot down on the U-turn on my second mod 1 but they didn't fail me. Mod 2 by comparison is a piece of cake, I was out less than 20 minutes.
Mod 1 is a killer, I was close to giving up - put my foot down on the U-turn on my second mod 1 but they didn't fail me. Mod 2 by comparison is a piece of cake, I was out less than 20 minutes.
I had the option of booking my Mod2 the same day, but understanding that if I failed mod1, I'd be scuppered for a few days, I opted to do it a week later.
The instructor I had said that in reality they wouldn't send someone to do their test unless they thought they'd pass. Obviously the candidates through nerves or otherwise can scupper that occasionally but 75% doesn't sound like that approach.
As someone has said, that is the risk with an intensive course, I did mine over 6 weekends, so would have had time to correct any problems, but equally took longer.
The instructor I had said that in reality they wouldn't send someone to do their test unless they thought they'd pass. Obviously the candidates through nerves or otherwise can scupper that occasionally but 75% doesn't sound like that approach.
As someone has said, that is the risk with an intensive course, I did mine over 6 weekends, so would have had time to correct any problems, but equally took longer.
Last week I took a big gamble and booked my Mod 1 and 2 for the same day (10 mins apart!). I was very happy to pass both 
For me it was a case of only having one day of holiday allowance remaining and wanting to get it done this year rather than waiting until next year.
Can't speak for the intense DAS courses but I know plenty of people who did intense driving courses. Most of them passed but they ended up being horrendous drivers. Some passed the test but then didn't buy a car and two years down the line couldn't even remember which pedal did what!
I think it's best to learn over a longer period of time and space it out a bit. I rode a 125 for nearly a year before doing my DAS and I'd really recommend that approach. I got accustomed to riding the bike and bike control at lower speed so doing the DAS was just a case of having more power. Going very quickly to a big bike could be quite intimidating and I think it's better and safer to learn to wring the neck of a 125 and move up than to start big but be too scared/inexperienced to make use of the power.
For me it was a case of only having one day of holiday allowance remaining and wanting to get it done this year rather than waiting until next year.Can't speak for the intense DAS courses but I know plenty of people who did intense driving courses. Most of them passed but they ended up being horrendous drivers. Some passed the test but then didn't buy a car and two years down the line couldn't even remember which pedal did what!
I think it's best to learn over a longer period of time and space it out a bit. I rode a 125 for nearly a year before doing my DAS and I'd really recommend that approach. I got accustomed to riding the bike and bike control at lower speed so doing the DAS was just a case of having more power. Going very quickly to a big bike could be quite intimidating and I think it's better and safer to learn to wring the neck of a 125 and move up than to start big but be too scared/inexperienced to make use of the power.
ozzuk said:
Mod 1 is a killer, I was close to giving up - put my foot down on the U-turn on my second mod 1 but they didn't fail me. Mod 2 by comparison is a piece of cake, I was out less than 20 minutes.
Strangely I found the oppositeFlew though MOD1 then failed MOD2, twice....first time for stopping too close to a van, which then rolled back, as I tried to avoid blocking a junction, then for speeding at 24mph in a 20 zone without any repeaters...
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