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Got the bug for track again so selling my trusty old steed k6 750 regd 07
I can get suzuki cheaper due to my line of work but tbh not really followed the tech on these so much
I think it was the 17 model that went all new but what's the difference between the standard and the R?
This will be purely for track so everything road will be removed. Just need the better bike vs value for money. I want new as they've come a long way in technology and I like the modern TC etc
I can get suzuki cheaper due to my line of work but tbh not really followed the tech on these so much
I think it was the 17 model that went all new but what's the difference between the standard and the R?
This will be purely for track so everything road will be removed. Just need the better bike vs value for money. I want new as they've come a long way in technology and I like the modern TC etc
Birky_41 said:
Any links on the 17s going for that?
Not worried on abs will be bypassing all that
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...Not worried on abs will be bypassing all that
I have 2017 GSXR1000R.
R has balance free forks and shock, had shifter/blipper as standard equipment, and curve ABS and launch control.
R needs:
new brake master cylinder
braided lines (stock are rubber, for christ sake!)
flash (especially if riding on the street)
Normal GSXR1000 has blipper/shifter stock from next year
Both normal and R will have braided lines from next year.
Normal has Showa suspension and no curve ABS, no launch control.
Oh, and they do not have a hugger from the factory, there are some aftermarket solutions but they are not optimal.
Still can't understand WHY GSXR1000 does not have a hugger.
R has balance free forks and shock, had shifter/blipper as standard equipment, and curve ABS and launch control.
R needs:
new brake master cylinder
braided lines (stock are rubber, for christ sake!)
flash (especially if riding on the street)
Normal GSXR1000 has blipper/shifter stock from next year
Both normal and R will have braided lines from next year.
Normal has Showa suspension and no curve ABS, no launch control.
Oh, and they do not have a hugger from the factory, there are some aftermarket solutions but they are not optimal.
Still can't understand WHY GSXR1000 does not have a hugger.
Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Friday 12th October 06:01
Birky_41 said:
Got the bug for track again so selling my trusty old steed k6 750 regd 07
I can get suzuki cheaper due to my line of work but tbh not really followed the tech on these so much
I think it was the 17 model that went all new but what's the difference between the standard and the R?
This will be purely for track so everything road will be removed. Just need the better bike vs value for money. I want new as they've come a long way in technology and I like the modern TC etc
How do I can get suzuki cheaper due to my line of work but tbh not really followed the tech on these so much
I think it was the 17 model that went all new but what's the difference between the standard and the R?
This will be purely for track so everything road will be removed. Just need the better bike vs value for money. I want new as they've come a long way in technology and I like the modern TC etc
The GSXR-R has ...
- Quickshifter and Blipper
- Showa balance free forks and balance free shock
- LED front lights
- Inverted dashboard display
- Race cornering ABS
- Lightweight Yoke
- Launch Control
I love mine
Edited by Mr OCD on Friday 12th October 09:23
Ho Lee Kau said:
I have 2017 GSXR1000R.
R needs:
new brake master cylinder
braided lines (stock are rubber, for christ sake!)
flash (especially if riding on the street)
Oh, and they do not have a hugger from the factory, there are some aftermarket solutions but they are not optimal.
Still can't understand WHY GSXR1000 does not have a hugger.
See I've modified all of my previous bikes ... quite a bit in some cases, yet the GSXRR is one bike I feel does not need messing with at all... by all means if you are going to track it then yes an upgraded MC would be a good idea but for road riding - nah, its far better than it really needs to be. Likewise it doesn't 'need' flashing either - in fact some of the owners club have done this and had some issues, but the bike is very smooth in the correct mode for the road (B mode) and certainly smoother than anything else I've ridden in the last few years. R needs:
new brake master cylinder
braided lines (stock are rubber, for christ sake!)
flash (especially if riding on the street)
Oh, and they do not have a hugger from the factory, there are some aftermarket solutions but they are not optimal.
Still can't understand WHY GSXR1000 does not have a hugger.
Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Friday 12th October 06:01
As for the hugger. I've got a Warrior unit to go on which seems better than most, but you can fit an OEM kit with an aftermarket fitting kit. I agree it is a pain as the (expensive!) shock gets hammered with dirt!
It's a great bit of kit that just 'feels' right on the road and needs nothing. It's a complete package and the engine is perfectly suited to the road with lots of low down - mid range grunt, yet has the top end of any current superbike. Astounding.
Edited by Mr OCD on Friday 12th October 09:22
jjones said:
Think I am right in saying the R is electronic suspension as well as angle sensitive ABS and launch control.
There are deals on 2017 non Rs to be had for 11k new, alternatively a second hand R will be 12.5k with 6k miles on (prices there or thereabouts).
For comparison I paid £13,500 for a 2018 pre-reg (July) RR with delivery miles.There are deals on 2017 non Rs to be had for 11k new, alternatively a second hand R will be 12.5k with 6k miles on (prices there or thereabouts).
Mr OCD said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
I have 2017 GSXR1000R.
R needs:
new brake master cylinder
braided lines (stock are rubber, for christ sake!)
flash (especially if riding on the street)
Oh, and they do not have a hugger from the factory, there are some aftermarket solutions but they are not optimal.
Still can't understand WHY GSXR1000 does not have a hugger.
See I've modified all of my previous bikes ... quite a bit in some cases, yet the GSXRR is one bike I feel does not need messing with at all... by all means if you are going to track it then yes an upgraded MC would be a good idea but for road riding - nah, its far better than it really needs to be. Likewise it doesn't 'need' flashing either - in fact some of the owners club have done this and had some issues, but the bike is very smooth in the correct mode for the road (B mode) and certainly smoother than anything else I've ridden in the last few years. R needs:
new brake master cylinder
braided lines (stock are rubber, for christ sake!)
flash (especially if riding on the street)
Oh, and they do not have a hugger from the factory, there are some aftermarket solutions but they are not optimal.
Still can't understand WHY GSXR1000 does not have a hugger.
Edited by Ho Lee Kau on Friday 12th October 06:01
As for the hugger. I've got a Warrior unit to go on which seems better than most, but you can fit an OEM kit with an aftermarket fitting kit. I agree it is a pain as the (expensive!) shock gets hammered with dirt!
It's a great bit of kit that just 'feels' right on the road and needs nothing. It's a complete package and the engine is perfectly suited to the road with lots of low down - mid range grunt, yet has the top end of any current superbike. Astounding.
Edited by Mr OCD on Friday 12th October 09:22
Yes, I ride in A-mode since the purchase because "I want it all and I want it now". But thanks for suggestion, maybe I try the B-mode next time, see if it fits me.
Anyway, in A-mode, the on/off throttle is jerky and unpleasant. It's all those Euro4 limitations this bike has to adhere to at lower revs.
I will do the flash next season.
Front brakes - very long play in the lever before the front brakes get to work, I am unused to this and prefer the way my other bikes operate = no play. Maybe I need to flash them brakes, but I hear that does not really fix the issue.
Brembo RCS19 fixes the issue, I had that cylinder on my K5 GSXR1000, together with braided lines, and brakes were perfect.
Unfortunately in Switzerland RCS19 is not permitted for L7, so I just have to ride stock and get used to it.
When I ride the bike I do not really have the problems with the brake power, but I would prefer no play in the lever.
Therefore my "needs new brake master cylinder" applies to me.
But you should also watch the summary review of L7 by Michael Neeves and see how he can squeeze the brake lever right to the handlebar!
I will check your suggestion for hugger.
I bought lightech carbon hugger, it was the best looking one at that point. It came without gear and it seems the only way to fit it is to drill out the available little holes in the swingarm. I drill nothing on my bike, primarily for regulatory reasons, I am not sure how Swiss MOT authorities would react to this mod. I've read about an unlucky owner in Australia who drilled and got red-flagged by MOT, had to buy new swingarm.
It's a great bike though, I like it a lot. I test-rode it back-to-back with 2017 BMW S1000RR and liked GXSR more, but now I am thinking Beemer is better bike out of the box, but I do not regret my purchase.
Ho Lee Kau said:
It's great that you find throttle response acceptable on that bike. I don't. Not in A-mode when you are stuck in slow traffic at ~4000rpm.
Yes, I ride in A-mode since the purchase because "I want it all and I want it now". But thanks for suggestion, maybe I try the B-mode next time, see if it fits me.
Anyway, in A-mode, the on/off throttle is jerky and unpleasant. It's all those Euro4 limitations this bike has to adhere to at lower revs.
I will do the flash next season.
Front brakes - very long play in the lever before the front brakes get to work, I am unused to this and prefer the way my other bikes operate = no play. Maybe I need to flash them brakes, but I hear that does not really fix the issue.
Brembo RCS19 fixes the issue, I had that cylinder on my K5 GSXR1000, together with braided lines, and brakes were perfect.
Unfortunately in Switzerland RCS19 is not permitted for L7, so I just have to ride stock and get used to it.
When I ride the bike I do not really have the problems with the brake power, but I would prefer no play in the lever.
Therefore my "needs new brake master cylinder" applies to me.
But you should also watch the summary review of L7 by Michael Neeves and see how he can squeeze the brake lever right to the handlebar!
I will check your suggestion for hugger.
I bought lightech carbon hugger, it was the best looking one at that point. It came without gear and it seems the only way to fit it is to drill out the available little holes in the swingarm. I drill nothing on my bike, primarily for regulatory reasons, I am not sure how Swiss MOT authorities would react to this mod. I've read about an unlucky owner in Australia who drilled and got red-flagged by MOT, had to buy new swingarm.
It's a great bike though, I like it a lot. I test-rode it back-to-back with 2017 BMW S1000RR and liked GXSR more, but now I am thinking Beemer is better bike out of the box, but I do not regret my purchase.
Want it all? - each mode has FULL power... they just get to full power differently due to throttle progression. B mode is perfect for the road.Yes, I ride in A-mode since the purchase because "I want it all and I want it now". But thanks for suggestion, maybe I try the B-mode next time, see if it fits me.
Anyway, in A-mode, the on/off throttle is jerky and unpleasant. It's all those Euro4 limitations this bike has to adhere to at lower revs.
I will do the flash next season.
Front brakes - very long play in the lever before the front brakes get to work, I am unused to this and prefer the way my other bikes operate = no play. Maybe I need to flash them brakes, but I hear that does not really fix the issue.
Brembo RCS19 fixes the issue, I had that cylinder on my K5 GSXR1000, together with braided lines, and brakes were perfect.
Unfortunately in Switzerland RCS19 is not permitted for L7, so I just have to ride stock and get used to it.
When I ride the bike I do not really have the problems with the brake power, but I would prefer no play in the lever.
Therefore my "needs new brake master cylinder" applies to me.
But you should also watch the summary review of L7 by Michael Neeves and see how he can squeeze the brake lever right to the handlebar!
I will check your suggestion for hugger.
I bought lightech carbon hugger, it was the best looking one at that point. It came without gear and it seems the only way to fit it is to drill out the available little holes in the swingarm. I drill nothing on my bike, primarily for regulatory reasons, I am not sure how Swiss MOT authorities would react to this mod. I've read about an unlucky owner in Australia who drilled and got red-flagged by MOT, had to buy new swingarm.
It's a great bike though, I like it a lot. I test-rode it back-to-back with 2017 BMW S1000RR and liked GXSR more, but now I am thinking Beemer is better bike out of the box, but I do not regret my purchase.
I understand the travel, but this gives good feel and they don't lack power at all. Obviously that's a personal thing - I had Brembo RCS19 on both my Fireblade and previous R1, so I've had to adapt also and whilst I miss the instant grab of the RCS I never feel the brakes lacking on the bike by some margin and actually prefer the softer feel and modulation now that I'm used to it.
As for Neeves, the video doesn't show an awful lot as pulling the lever that hard will result in the front end locking. But as I said for track use you would change it anyway.
The Warrior hugger uses double sided tape, but with the concepts fitting fit you can mount it more securely. I wont be drilling anything either!
I also test rode the 2018 BMW S1000RR (same day), and previously ZX10R against the GSXRR. The GSXRR was the better bike in my opinion for road riding by quite some margin. Prior to riding the S1000RR I thought it was going to be the bike I was going to buy ... after the test ride I was on the fence, until I rode the GSXRR in which I returned to the shop and bought there and then.
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