Laws on parking on public road?
Discussion
So parking at my university is next to impossible, there are far too many cars and not enough spaces.
I park on a public road with no parking restrictions about 20 minutes walk from the uni, I have a friend who does the same.
Recently we both received notes from someone who lives on the road telling us they have recorded down and number plates and we should stop parking there immediately.
Since this road doesn't have any restrictions what are the laws surrounding parking there?
I park on a public road with no parking restrictions about 20 minutes walk from the uni, I have a friend who does the same.
Recently we both received notes from someone who lives on the road telling us they have recorded down and number plates and we should stop parking there immediately.
Since this road doesn't have any restrictions what are the laws surrounding parking there?
If there are no restrictions then you are free to park there, however residents may be aggrieved at the loss of what they deem "their space".
I used to work near Manchester airport and regularly people would leave their cars parked legally like yours ( but for two weeks at a time), but the residents took their own "enforcement action" - https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...
I used to work near Manchester airport and regularly people would leave their cars parked legally like yours ( but for two weeks at a time), but the residents took their own "enforcement action" - https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/great...
I live near a college and we have much the same problem and we pay for resident's permits. They do not, however, guarantee us spaces so it's pot luck if students' cars fill them all and I have to park a whole 20 yards away.
You can tell, I hope, that I really don't mind this but some do and plaster college cars with post-it notes, put their bins or cones on the road outside their houses, have 'No Parking' signs in their front wndows or whinge about it in the local press. I suspect that some who do this don't even own cars, they just need to protect 'their' space. I've even had one open his front door ready to rant at me only to retreat when he spotted my permit.
You can tell, I hope, that I really don't mind this but some do and plaster college cars with post-it notes, put their bins or cones on the road outside their houses, have 'No Parking' signs in their front wndows or whinge about it in the local press. I suspect that some who do this don't even own cars, they just need to protect 'their' space. I've even had one open his front door ready to rant at me only to retreat when he spotted my permit.
If there's no restrictions then they can't do anything about it. You might find in a couple of years the people on the street will get residents permits put in.
The problem is often the unis creating this mess. My uni was pathetic for this. I was at a remote campus with poor public transport and too far to bike/walk. Driving only real option. However the main university in a city centre put heavy environmental restrictions on parking on campus to discourage people driving when, in the city, there was a viable alternative. However the policy was blanket applied even to the various remote campuses. Basically unless it was a new car with very low emissions you had sod all chance of getting a permit. So the uni car park ends up empty and most the staff and students having to park on public streets.
Totally stupid and caused by the universities ill thought out policy.
The problem is often the unis creating this mess. My uni was pathetic for this. I was at a remote campus with poor public transport and too far to bike/walk. Driving only real option. However the main university in a city centre put heavy environmental restrictions on parking on campus to discourage people driving when, in the city, there was a viable alternative. However the policy was blanket applied even to the various remote campuses. Basically unless it was a new car with very low emissions you had sod all chance of getting a permit. So the uni car park ends up empty and most the staff and students having to park on public streets.
Totally stupid and caused by the universities ill thought out policy.
strain said:
I remember my Uni, never a major issue parking, if the carpark was full then people used the backroad as an overspill.
Uni decided that the carpark should be pay and display, it was empty overnight causing the locals hell.
Silly local residences they should have paid up for the parking. Uni decided that the carpark should be pay and display, it was empty overnight causing the locals hell.
We have a similar issue on our street, only it's not a uni it's 2 schools!!
Seemingly all the 6th/7th? form kids drive to the school and don't park on site, instead they park down all the local streets. That and commuters/shoppers also park here. The nearest road to the school has a permit parking only scheme and this was looked at for our road but it was deemed that it wasn't needed. Our drive only has space for 1 car, so mine stays on the street, move it during the day in the week and you'll come back to literally nowhere to park, and it's not like there's loads of roads nearby to park. I ended up parking on the grass verge until one of the kids turned up and moved his car.
It is bloody annoying at times, the amount of cars parked on the street is tripled by the kids and commuters. Unfortunately though they're well within their rights to park there.
Seemingly all the 6th/7th? form kids drive to the school and don't park on site, instead they park down all the local streets. That and commuters/shoppers also park here. The nearest road to the school has a permit parking only scheme and this was looked at for our road but it was deemed that it wasn't needed. Our drive only has space for 1 car, so mine stays on the street, move it during the day in the week and you'll come back to literally nowhere to park, and it's not like there's loads of roads nearby to park. I ended up parking on the grass verge until one of the kids turned up and moved his car.
It is bloody annoying at times, the amount of cars parked on the street is tripled by the kids and commuters. Unfortunately though they're well within their rights to park there.
jamei303 said:
In my town the uni have banned undergraduates from driving cars within 10 miles. I think more unis should do this.
How do they enforce that? - The authorities would need to know the registrations and details of every students vehicle, and know where they are being parked.We have the same problem with university student parking where I live too.
Out of term time, the side roads have parking available throughout the day and night, the pavements are unobstructed, and the neighbourhoods are nice and quiet at night times.
Come term time, all of the side roads are full of parked cars on both sides of the road, with many of the cars parked on the pavements, blocking them completely, cars are being parked across peoples driveways, and in the late hours of the night/early hours of the morning, you have cars playing loud bass-booming music, and racing around, revving the nuts of their pissy little Corsa's, Fiesta's, Clio's, and other various s
t sounding cars.A big part of the problem is that a lot of the houses in our area are old Victorian 3~4 bedroom family houses, on roads that have enough spaces for one car per household.
When the city became a university city a few years back, suddenly the houses were sold off to people who rent to students, and each house went from having 1 car per household, to 3~4 cars per household.
Even houses with enough parking for each resident can cause issues: A student house opposite my house has parking for 3 cars on its driveway, but what happens is, one student parks in the middle of the driveway, and the other two students park on the pavement opposite the house, blocking the pavement off, and causing a restriction to the road width due to the other cars parked on the road.
The hilarious part is, the university claim its wrong to blame students for the parking issues, because: "Hardly any students have cars!". It must be just a weird coincidence then, that the parking is a lot worse during term time, than it is out of term time, when all the cars seem to disappear - I guess they must have a couple of thousand lecturers who park on the streets!
One university has in their regulations that it is against their rules:
regs said:
for a member of the University to park a vehicle on any street, road or other place near any of the University sites so as to cause or be likely to cause unreasonable obstruction or annoyance to local residents or businesses.
regs said:
for a member of the University to refuse any reasonable request by the Manager for Off-Campus Student Affairs or, by or on behalf of the Head of Security to move a vehicle parked in any street, road or other place near any of the University sites.
I’m not sure it has been challenged yet. My local one is a bit more strict, this rule has been in place since 1908 so pretty sure it's legally sound:
Under regulations in Ordinances, a member of the University in statu pupillari in residence during term or the long vacation period of residence who wishes to keep, use, or cause to be kept, a motor vehicle (other than a moped) within ten miles of Great St Mary's Church must obtain a Motor Licence.
To obtain a licence you should match one of the following criteria: 1) be a graduate of a university; 2) be an undergraduate who has kept or been allowed nine terms of residence; 3) be an undergraduate who has not kept nine terms but has exceptional individual circumstances, e.g. medical problems or special needs related to academic work; 4) be an undergraduate who has not kept nine terms but who will use the vehicle for the purposes of a University Department, or a University or College club or society
Once issued, Licences may be cancelled or suspended by the Senior Proctor, who may also impose a fine of up to £175 on persons who come
within the motor regulations for non-compliance, including breaches of any special conditions of issue.
Under regulations in Ordinances, a member of the University in statu pupillari in residence during term or the long vacation period of residence who wishes to keep, use, or cause to be kept, a motor vehicle (other than a moped) within ten miles of Great St Mary's Church must obtain a Motor Licence.
To obtain a licence you should match one of the following criteria: 1) be a graduate of a university; 2) be an undergraduate who has kept or been allowed nine terms of residence; 3) be an undergraduate who has not kept nine terms but has exceptional individual circumstances, e.g. medical problems or special needs related to academic work; 4) be an undergraduate who has not kept nine terms but who will use the vehicle for the purposes of a University Department, or a University or College club or society
Once issued, Licences may be cancelled or suspended by the Senior Proctor, who may also impose a fine of up to £175 on persons who come
within the motor regulations for non-compliance, including breaches of any special conditions of issue.
Edited by jamei303 on Saturday 13th October 09:14
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