MOT - No Windscreen Wipers
Discussion
On reading the MOT testers manual I think that I can get away with just one wiper.
However, I then wondered if I could do away with both. I say this because:
MOT Manual
3.4 Windscreen wipers.
You don't need to inspect windscreen wipers on vehicles with:
Some other means of giving the driver an adequate view through the windscreen to the front, left and right.
Can anyone define 'adequate view' ?
However, I then wondered if I could do away with both. I say this because:
MOT Manual
3.4 Windscreen wipers.
You don't need to inspect windscreen wipers on vehicles with:
Some other means of giving the driver an adequate view through the windscreen to the front, left and right.
Can anyone define 'adequate view' ?
stevebroad said:
On reading the MOT testers manual I think that I can get away with just one wiper.
However, I then wondered if I could do away with both. I say this because:
MOT Manual
3.4 Windscreen wipers.
You don't need to inspect windscreen wipers on vehicles with:
Some other means of giving the driver an adequate view through the windscreen to the front, left and right.
Can anyone define 'adequate view' ?
Guesing that will be something like a kit car type vehicle where they just have a small screen type affair that you can see over or where you would wear a crash helmetHowever, I then wondered if I could do away with both. I say this because:
MOT Manual
3.4 Windscreen wipers.
You don't need to inspect windscreen wipers on vehicles with:
Some other means of giving the driver an adequate view through the windscreen to the front, left and right.
Can anyone define 'adequate view' ?
I think the rule is if the vehicle originally came with wipers, then it must have wipers. Seem to remember this coming up when I was going to MOT a bike without turn signals as yes, you do not have to use them it is perfectly fine to give hand signals alone.
But was then told the above.....I think, was quite a while ago!
But was then told the above.....I think, was quite a while ago!
stevebroad said:
On reading the MOT testers manual I think that I can get away with just one wiper.
However, I then wondered if I could do away with both. I say this because:
MOT Manual
3.4 Windscreen wipers.
You don't need to inspect windscreen wipers on vehicles with:
Some other means of giving the driver an adequate view through the windscreen to the front, left and right.
Can anyone define 'adequate view' ?
Can the driver see the road well enough to drive, if it's pissing down?However, I then wondered if I could do away with both. I say this because:
MOT Manual
3.4 Windscreen wipers.
You don't need to inspect windscreen wipers on vehicles with:
Some other means of giving the driver an adequate view through the windscreen to the front, left and right.
Can anyone define 'adequate view' ?
In short, can you open or remove the windscreen, or can the driver look over it? If so, no wipers needed. If not, wipers needed.
No wipers needed:

No wipers needed:

Wipers needed:

stevebroad said:
Some other means of giving the driver an adequate view THROUGH the windscreen to the front, left and right.
Opening and no windscreen is covered elsewhere in the manual.
Car is a Lotus Elan with a full windscreen.
The 'some other means' would need to be checked during the MOT inspection, wouldn't it? Provided it can and is shown to be effective I imagine it would pass. What did you have in mind?Opening and no windscreen is covered elsewhere in the manual.
Car is a Lotus Elan with a full windscreen.
Edited by stevebroad on Saturday 13th October 13:45
Riley Blue said:
The 'some other means' would need to be checked during the MOT inspection, wouldn't it? Provided it can and is shown to be effective I imagine it would pass. What did you have in mind?
The only thing I can think of at the moment is Rain-X. I spoke to my local MOT station owner today and he couldn't think of anything, not a question he has been asked before :-) He reckons that he would have to fail the car, even with Rain-X as it would be difficult to prove that it had been applied and no way of proving that it works.Edited by stevebroad on Saturday 13th October 14:37
Riley Blue said:
The 'some other means' would need to be checked during the MOT inspection, wouldn't it? Provided it can and is shown to be effective I imagine it would pass. What did you have in mind?
The only thing I can think of at the moment is Rain-X. I spoke to my local MOT station owner today and he couldn't think of anything, not a question he has been asked before :-) He reckons that he would have to fail the car, even with Rain-X as it would be difficult to prove that it had been applied and no way of proving that it works.Edited by stevebroad on Saturday 13th October 22:40
CoolHands said:
Probably. Eg a futuristic car could have air blowers.
Ships' bridge windows sonetimes have rapidly rotating glass discs instead of wipers.According to the wiki article they were originally developed for cars by Edgar de Normanville (as in Laycock-de Normanville overdrive). Though I don't know if they were ever actually fitted to a road vehicle, and even if they had been it would almost certainly now be old enough not to need an MOT.
stevebroad said:
Riley Blue said:
The 'some other means' would need to be checked during the MOT inspection, wouldn't it? Provided it can and is shown to be effective I imagine it would pass. What did you have in mind?
The only thing I can think of at the moment is Rain-X. I spoke to my local MOT station owner today and he couldn't think of anything, not a question he has been asked before :-) He reckons that he would have to fail the car, even with Rain-X as it would be difficult to prove that it had been applied and no way of proving that it works.Edited by stevebroad on Saturday 13th October 14:37
TooMany2cvs said:
Cold said:
Why not have them functioning as intended for the MOT?
Steady, tiger...
Was just the simplest solution I could think of. Afterwards, if the OP then wants to remove or modify them there's nothing to worry about for another 12 months - apart from not being able to see when it rains, of course.
Cold said:

Was just the simplest solution I could think of. Afterwards, if the OP then wants to remove or modify them there's nothing to worry about for another 12 months - apart from not being able to see when it rains, of course.
Screen out for the MOT, and wipers taken off?
My old Jeep GC passed with limo black front windows (not a tint film, it was coloured glass from the factory) - I wound them right down and took the fuse out.
He can't fail you on what he can't see... and this is in super-strict N.Ireland, where the DVA do the test - not an independent garage.
My old Jeep GC passed with limo black front windows (not a tint film, it was coloured glass from the factory) - I wound them right down and took the fuse out.
He can't fail you on what he can't see... and this is in super-strict N.Ireland, where the DVA do the test - not an independent garage.
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