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jay140285

Original Poster

626 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

So my 30yr old sister currently drives a 65plate DS3, this is due for replacement very soon.

Looking to spend on pcp around £250 pcm or personal loan £12500 new as possible probably 3 or 4 yrs old.

Having never been a small hatch person (I drive a Ford F-150).

list so far

Hyundai I30 Turbo
Peugeot 208 gti
Polo gti
Firsta st
Clio rs sport
Mini Cooper S

She doesn’t like the Corsa vxr

Curve ball RCZ

Anything else worth looking at.

Edited by jay140285 on Wednesday 17th October 08:10

pb8g09

2,354 posts

70 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

Abarth 595/500

tigger1

8,402 posts

222 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

Another option: There's a 200bhp Astra that can be leased (PCH) for <£200 / month at the minute (can't remember, think it's 8k miles / year).

Similarly, Octavia vRS (245bhp) was only about £250/year to lease (again, PCH) - but I think all 2018 cars are now sold out.

Truckosaurus

11,356 posts

285 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

Nismo Juke.

Like a Clio but better smile

(manual gearbox, LSD etc.)

pb8g09

2,354 posts

70 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

Truckosaurus said:

Nismo Juke.

Like a Clio but better smile

(manual gearbox, LSD etc.)

No. Avoid. They're terrible. Owned one and it was terrible. Made worse by the fact it took an age to get rid of it...

kieranblenk

865 posts

135 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

Alfa Giulietta of some description would fit the bill, ditto Kia Proceed GT should be available in budget.

If your sister doesn't need out an out power would a Fiesta ST Line 140 or new Suzuki Swift Sport not suffice?

ZX10R NIN

27,654 posts

126 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

ninjag

1,833 posts

120 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

jay140285 said:

Edited by jay140285 on Wednesday 17th October 08:10

You can get a 2017 Swift Sport with only 1,800 miles on the clock for £10,795 from a main dealer.

Or lease the new turbocharged one for £254 per month over three years, 8k miles per year. Although I'd probably prefer the n/a one.

trowbridge

27 posts

158 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

pb8g09 said:

Truckosaurus said:

Nismo Juke.

Like a Clio but better smile

(manual gearbox, LSD etc.)

No. Avoid. They're terrible. Owned one and it was terrible. Made worse by the fact it took an age to get rid of it...

Sorry to jump on the thread can you explain what's terrible about them was considering one of these myself. Thanks

ZX10R NIN

27,654 posts

126 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

trowbridge said:

Sorry to jump on the thread can you explain what's terrible about them was considering one of these myself. Thanks

Considering it instead of what? They're not the greatest drive but it depends what you're comparing it to.

pb8g09

2,354 posts

70 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

trowbridge said:

Sorry to jump on the thread can you explain what's terrible about them was considering one of these myself. Thanks

So in the 18 months and 20k miles I owned one, I had to replace the front brakes twice and two bushes and headlights (they were a bit of a pig because of their position).

It's a terrible steer because of the high position, throwing anything you have (including passengers) on the rear seats all over the place and no matter how light footed I drove it, never achieved higher than 27 mpg- which would have been acceptable if the car was a good drive, but it just wasn't.

The boot is small and is comparable to that of my S1 (a little bigger than a Mini's boot to be fair), but not sure why it was so small given it didn't have a spare wheel. The fuel tank is tiny so you're regularly at the petrol station.

The plus side, the car comes with loads of tech and kit and the satnav wasn't bad. The heated seats were nice, but didn't offer a great amount of support. The door handles are prone to coming away from the body (had to repair twice).

I found the clutch to be particularly harsh on my shin on my 20 mile motorway traffic commute too.

It's the worst car I've owned and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Anyway, back to the OP thread...!

trowbridge

27 posts

158 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

ZX10R NIN said:

trowbridge said:

Sorry to jump on the thread can you explain what's terrible about them was considering one of these myself. Thanks

Considering it instead of what? They're not the greatest drive but it depends what you're comparing it to.

It was on a list of cars I was considering to replace my Mk5 golf GTi.

MK1RS Bruce

669 posts

139 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

I have a fiesta ST which is a pretty good all-rounder, reasonably quick but will still average 27MPG when totally abused for a full tank or 45MPG if you are very good for a full tank. It has a decent level of kit, mine is the ST2 and has heated seats day running lights etc, next one up the ST3 has sat nav and cruise control on top of the ST2 levels.

I bought mine 2 years old with 23k on the clock for £10200 so easily achievable in budget, costs have been pretty minimal, major service is a couple of hundred pounds brake pads weren't expensive when I changed those and it has 17" wheels so plenty choice for tyres to suit all budgets.

I suspect given the number of them on the road residuals aren't going to be amazing but again its a decent drive so hopefully be plenty of demand for them in the future.

ZX10R NIN

27,654 posts

126 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

Coming from a hot hatch you will not find it a good steer at all.

kinghottinger

185 posts

142 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

tigger1 said:

Another option: There's a 200bhp Astra that can be leased (PCH) for <£200 / month at the minute (can't remember, think it's 8k miles / year).

Astra Elite Nav 200
Loads of deals around (just) under 200 - just been quoted for 8k and 15k. Factory order c. 500-1000 upfront.

CJ1

468 posts

79 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

I recently (3 months ago) bought a 2014 Mini Cooper S with 64000 Miles for £10900 approved used from Mini.

Can’t stress enough what a great little car it is. Compared to my 2011 Polo GTI I had previously it is miles ahead in terms of interior quality and design. It is basically a little BMW and uses iDrive infotainment.

It absolutely flys (0-60 in 6.9s) although feels a lot faster , although as soon as you put it in Green Mode (which is a stupid idea in a Cooper S and and I’ve only used it once) stick cruise control at 60mph it will average a solid 50mpg.

Obviously £11-12k doesn’t go as far on a Mini, and you could get a Fiesta ST with half the mileage but the Mini is just miles ahead in my opinion!

jay140285

Original Poster

626 posts

185 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

Brilliant thank you, couple of good alternatives suggested.

She is going to do a short list for us to then go and view see what deals are about.

Trevor555

4,459 posts

85 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018

Fiesta ST all the way from me.

DUBS73P

110 posts

136 months

Friday 19th October 2018

I've owned 7 RenaultSport vehicles and loved them, but there's no way the Clio would be even a consideration against the Fiesta.

Love the ST-3 and sure ill get one when the prices come down even more. Right now the Megane/Focus are the sweet spot for price IMO.

geeks

9,210 posts

140 months

Friday 19th October 2018

Another vote for the Abarth 595 here smile

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