Why hasn’t the BBC been privatised yet?
Why hasn’t the BBC been privatised yet?
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Nickbrapp

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5,277 posts

160 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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I’ve often wondered why the BBC hasn’t been privatised and sold off like so many other previously state owned institutions.

It no longer offers anything that couldn’t raise its revenue from advertising, for instance they just plug the radio time where adverts would usually be played with adverts for their own shows

On TV, all the programs would usually be 45 mins of content and 15 mins on adverts, but the BBC still has 45nins if content then fills the rest with a previously and a next week or a how it’s made section etc

The previously programs that should be political bias free are not with massive leans either way depending on the presenter.

They are losing out on top programming like bake off because they haven’t got enough cash, it would prevent so much PC bullst

They seem to be going though the target everyone issues with their radio programming at the moment, most of the top shows are now a man and a woman, like the recent changes to the radio 1 line up on the weekend, and the Simon Mayo show etc.

If they where raising money from advertising they could have continued with BBC3 on the tv too.

I see no reason why it should still be paid with by the TV licence, which is then subsidised by the government for so many people.

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

197 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Have you ever watched Amercian free to air TV? I' told Australian telly is ever worse.

98elise

32,656 posts

191 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Willy Nilly said:
Have you ever watched Amercian free to air TV? I' told Australian telly is ever worse.
Why would it be like American TV. It would be like all the other UK channels with adverts.


Eric Mc

125,705 posts

295 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Way hay - another BBC thread.

Can't have enough of them.


MrGTI6

3,308 posts

160 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Nickbrapp said:
On TV, all the programs would usually be 45 mins of content and 15 mins on adverts, but the BBC still has 45nins if content then fills the rest with a previously and a next week or a how it’s made section etc
The second part of this is completely untrue.

Polite M135 driver

1,853 posts

114 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Nickbrapp said:
It no longer offers anything that couldn’t raise its revenue from advertising, for instance they just plug the radio time where adverts would usually be played with adverts for their own shows
in our time
nature documentaries
bbc four
etc. etc.

so much world class content that would not be comissioned by commercial channels.

if you can't tell the difference between the content on the BBC and that on commercial channels then you are not watching very closely or thinking very hard.

the main reason its not been privatised is because most people don't want it to be.

Polite M135 driver

1,853 posts

114 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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98elise said:
Willy Nilly said:
Have you ever watched Amercian free to air TV? I' told Australian telly is ever worse.
Why would it be like American TV. It would be like all the other UK channels with adverts.
i.e., also st.

nikaiyo2

5,962 posts

225 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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The main reason is because we have a very dominant news broadcaster that is not going to st on its own doorstep.

I can imagine after Brexit the Tory’s will give the BBC a good kicking to restore at least a veneer of neutrality.

deckster

9,631 posts

285 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Nickbrapp said:
it would prevent so much PC bullst
You betray your prejudices here.

The BBC is one of the jewels in the crown of British culture. Of course it can be improved, but the one thing guaranteed to ruin it would be to sell it off.

I mean, can you imagine what Rupert Murdoch would to the BBC if he got his hands on it???

Mike335i

6,057 posts

132 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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The BBC is just fine as it is, lots of quality programmes on the whole and no 3rd party advertisement. Worth every penny and then some just to save me from the adverts, especially on the radio.

They might be a bit lefty sometimes, but why is that a problem? There is plenty of right leaning media and I have enough about me to form my own opinions.

The whole 45 minute thing is just not true, the channels that buy BBC programming have to cut it down to fit the adverts in, so they loose out (admittedly most wouldn't really notice).

Edited by Mike335i on Sunday 21st October 17:50

FredericRobinson

5,092 posts

262 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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98elise said:
Why would it be like American TV. It would be like all the other UK channels with adverts.
Why would that be a good thing?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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nikaiyo2 said:
I can imagine after Brexit the Tory’s will give the BBC a good kicking
The next charter review is 2026.

nikaiyo2 said:
to restore at least a veneer of neutrality.
By which you mean impose your/Tory party's preferred right-leaning bias.

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

263 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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It is Labour/Blairite to the core but even the Tories won't privatise it, simply because it is the government's main propaganda vehicle.

Roofless Toothless

7,579 posts

162 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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The reason that the BBC hasn't been sold off "like so many other state owned institutions" is that it isn't state owned.

The OP really should get his facts right before he leads off like this.

Cold

16,721 posts

120 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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If its output really is worth every penny (or other similar platitudes) surely it would have no trouble raising its own funds instead of having to rely on a tax that makes a financial demand from those who don't consume it?

FredClogs

14,041 posts

191 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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The BBC isn't publicly owned, it isn't publicly funded either. I'm not quite sure how the charter is worded but I think its certainly run under some sort of legislated license. You couldn't just sell it because it doesn't belong to anyone.

Can't wait for Dr who in an hour.

Polite M135 driver

1,853 posts

114 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Cold said:
If its output really is worth every penny (or other similar platitudes) surely it would have no trouble raising its own funds instead of having to rely on a tax that makes a financial demand from those who don't consume it?
People want easyJet and itv, there is no way they’d pay for the bbc.

Roofless Toothless

7,579 posts

162 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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You know it really does cheese me off when people go out of their way on here to lambast the BBC and then use as an excuse their disappointment in a few high profile shows like Bake Off or their perceived political bias.

Never a word about the superb drama, documentaries and journalism, the quality of radio channels like R3 and R4, excellent children's services, iPlayer and the Internet. For me BBC radio is worth the cost of the licence alone, and we get that nominally for nothing. I don't suppose people with this disposition ever go near this kind of content, or perhaps even know it exists.

Just go and live abroad before you start criticising what we get here for a very reasonable price.

Mike335i

6,057 posts

132 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Roofless Toothless said:
You know it really does cheese me off when people go out of their way on here to lambast the BBC and then use as an excuse their disappointment in a few high profile shows like Bake Off or their perceived political bias.

Never a word about the superb drama, documentaries and journalism, the quality of radio channels like R3 and R4, excellent children's services, iPlayer and the Internet. For me BBC radio is worth the cost of the licence alone, and we get that nominally for nothing. I don't suppose people with this disposition ever go near this kind of content, or perhaps even know it exists.

Just go and live abroad before you start criticising what we get here for a very reasonable price.
Exactly, I happily pay the licence fee and consider it excellent value for money for the content I get in return.

peterperkins

3,444 posts

272 months

Sunday 21st October 2018
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Mike335i said:
Exactly, I happily pay the licence fee and consider it excellent value for money for the content I get in return.
Agreed.

Excellent intelligent content (Mostly, excluding soaps, game shows etc etc.)