Linkedin Surrender
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Joe5y

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1,630 posts

206 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Morning all,

My wife has just handed her notice in at her current (previous) employer a Senior Physiotherapist (Olympic Sports). She had her initial exit interview where along with a number of things she was told that she would have to surrender her Linkedin account and password etc.

Now, I have had this in a previous job many years ago when I was in recruitment - I simply refused to which I told her to also.

In short they have told her that it is their property and they have the rights to it.

Any experience of this?

My take is to tell them to stick it but she is really worried about repercussions and she wants to stay in favour with them so doesn't want upset them.

TIA

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

254 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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If the only email associated with the account is her work one, they may have a small point. If her personal email is the main contact, they should be told to go forth and multiply.

She may want to remove the detail to make the argument hypothetical...

DanL

6,585 posts

288 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Honestly curious what their argument is for it being their property - does it contain more than “just” an on line CV? Many work based articles published? If so, maybe they have some sort of a point, but they should also surely have a corporate presence that would be used to publish this stuff if they wanted to retain “ownership”?

TLDR - what are they saying they own?

DavesFlaps

683 posts

214 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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If as above, the account is registered using her work email, I believe it's fairly straightforward to change this.

If it's a LinkedIn Premium account and the subscription is paid for by her employer, they may have a point.

I'm unsure how easy it is to downgrade to a standard account if this is the case.


Dromedary66

1,924 posts

161 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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That is a truly bizarre request by the employer. Sad s.

And if it is registered with her work email - just change it.

And use that as a lesson to never use a work email account to register with anything you would mind losing access to.

Joe5y

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1,630 posts

206 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Sorry I should have said. It is just a normal LinkedIn account. No affiliation with her employer and is linked to her personal e-mail account - always has been.

My opinion is to tell them to sod off but I wasn't sure if they had a case to request it.

Landlord

12,689 posts

280 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Joe5y said:
Sorry I should have said. It is just a normal LinkedIn account. No affiliation with her employer and is linked to her personal e-mail account - always has been.

My opinion is to tell them to sod off but I wasn't sure if they had a case to request it.
I have no legal experience whatsoever but I just can't fathom a justification for them to be entitled to demand this. Do they not want her Facebook/Twitter/Ashley Madison accounts too? What about her swinging/fetish sites etc?

I'd be calling ACAS just to get proper, educated advice.

krisdelta

4,664 posts

224 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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This is worth a read https://www.mlplaw.co.uk/4-things-every-employer-k...

I’d be ignoring the request or telling them to take a running jump if pushed. Or perhaps she can offer to exchange it for their mother’s maiden name and PIN number?

daddy cool

4,093 posts

252 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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DavesFlaps said:
If it's a LinkedIn Premium account and the subscription is paid for by her employer, they may have a point.
Why would an employer pay for LinkedIn for an employee? I mean, I can understand it for a member of HR (as they would use LinkedIn to connect with possible candidates), but for anyone outside HR, surely they just use it for their online CV to potentially jump ship in future?

psi310398

10,635 posts

226 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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I'd also check her contract of employment. If nothing is mentioned in there, she should feel confident in telling them to do one. Alternatively, she could ask them to provide in writing specific details of the IP they are claiming to be theirs.

So far as LI is concerned, the User Agreement says:

2.2 Your Account

"As between you and others (including your employer), your account belongs to you. However, if the Services were purchased by another party for you to use (e.g. Recruiter seat bought by your employer), the party paying for such Service has the right to control access to and get reports on your use of such paid Service; however, they do not have rights to your personal account."


Joe5y

Original Poster:

1,630 posts

206 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Thank you for all advice. Just as I thought and I have previously actioned but I wanted to check nonetheless.

Drumroll

4,374 posts

143 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Ask for that request in writing so she can take it to her solicitor.

Look at it another way if she surrendered her password they could write whatever they like about her. Just changing a word here and there could affect how people look at her. ( I have stated elsewhere, I take personally linkedin with a pinch of salt, but I know others who swear by it)

DanL

6,585 posts

288 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Joe5y said:
Sorry I should have said. It is just a normal LinkedIn account. No affiliation with her employer and is linked to her personal e-mail account - always has been.

My opinion is to tell them to sod off but I wasn't sure if they had a case to request it.
Would be asking the employer why they believe they’re entitled to this in that case, but you should probably feel fine with telling them to bugger off..,

Sheepshanks

39,339 posts

142 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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daddy cool said:
Why would an employer pay for LinkedIn for an employee?
Some of our sales guys have premium access and claim it as an expense. I don't think it's ever been formally agreed as such, but it gets paid.

Pothole

34,367 posts

305 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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daddy cool said:
Why would an employer pay for LinkedIn for an employee? I mean, I can understand it for a member of HR (as they would use LinkedIn to connect with possible candidates), but for anyone outside HR, surely they just use it for their online CV to potentially jump ship in future?
It's a networking site.

daddy cool

4,093 posts

252 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Pothole said:
daddy cool said:
Why would an employer pay for LinkedIn for an employee? I mean, I can understand it for a member of HR (as they would use LinkedIn to connect with possible candidates), but for anyone outside HR, surely they just use it for their online CV to potentially jump ship in future?
It's a networking site.
Oh, really? Cheers.

oldbanger

4,328 posts

261 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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daddy cool said:
Pothole said:
daddy cool said:
Why would an employer pay for LinkedIn for an employee? I mean, I can understand it for a member of HR (as they would use LinkedIn to connect with possible candidates), but for anyone outside HR, surely they just use it for their online CV to potentially jump ship in future?
It's a networking site.
Oh, really? Cheers.
We have to sort out own free accounts. However, my employer encourages use of LinkedIn and senior staff put our regular technical updates to promote the firm, which we are asked to share on there.

I also use it a lot for researching clients, e.g. if I am going to an event or are going to have anyone coming in to visit, and talking to academics and other people in my particular field - e.g. around best practice, new research etc.

Jasandjules

72,010 posts

252 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Just ask them for the law they say entitles them to have access to her personal LinkedIn account.

redandwhite

501 posts

152 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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Very random request, assume the employer is private sector and not NHS?

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

90 months

Friday 26th October 2018
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That's weird and petty and nasty.

Id be tempted to create a special new account with some surprises for whoever logs in.