iPhone Xs - options for no headphone jack port situation
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DISCLAIMER: I'm not looking to replace my great sounding, perfect fitting, I have no doubt I love them earphones that were made to be portable, I'm looking for a way/dongles/adapters/reliable cables with MMCX connectors that would allow me to use my Shure SE846's with iPhone Xs. So AirPods are or any other new earphones not a solution, but a dongle like Fiio i1 might be. Thank you for your kind understanding.
MAIN BODY OF THE MESSAGE: I went to Apple store to see if I like the new line up and iPhone Xs blew me away. It looks and feels quality, it's snappy and the screen is very good too. I almost got it there and then but I remembered that it doesn't have the analogue headphone output.
What options do I have to be able to use my Shure SE's with this phone? Apart from Apple's adapter which judging by mostly one star reviews on their own website is trash. And I don't want to use any Bluetooth adapters since it would be like running a Ferrari on some Chinese ditch finders.
MAIN BODY OF THE MESSAGE: I went to Apple store to see if I like the new line up and iPhone Xs blew me away. It looks and feels quality, it's snappy and the screen is very good too. I almost got it there and then but I remembered that it doesn't have the analogue headphone output.
What options do I have to be able to use my Shure SE's with this phone? Apart from Apple's adapter which judging by mostly one star reviews on their own website is trash. And I don't want to use any Bluetooth adapters since it would be like running a Ferrari on some Chinese ditch finders.
Edited by Bullitt Five-Oh on Friday 26th October 17:23
You've not left yourself with many options.. Look on amazon for a more reliable adaptor? You can't carve a new 3.5mm socket in very easily (Although it has been done https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BmS2-rDSPE) so it's bluetooth adaptor or lightning adaptor..
It seems that most adaptors fail on the connector being too weak to withstand challenges of being carried while plugged in... Which is fair enough since it wasn't designed for this task (revolutionary Apple design).
Ideally it'd be great if there was a case that introduced headphone port, like Incipio OX for iPhone 7 but so far I've not been able to find one like it (that is quality, there are some Chinese cases but they look either like a brick or like trash) for iPhone Xs.
Ideally it'd be great if there was a case that introduced headphone port, like Incipio OX for iPhone 7 but so far I've not been able to find one like it (that is quality, there are some Chinese cases but they look either like a brick or like trash) for iPhone Xs.
I'm not familiar with the Shures that you have however I have had a few different pairs of headphones over the last few years.
Do they connect using an Aux to Aux cable? I.e can the cable be removed from the Shures? - My last few pairs have been like this and I used the this Belkin cable to avoid adapters:
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/HM792ZM/A/be...
Do they connect using an Aux to Aux cable? I.e can the cable be removed from the Shures? - My last few pairs have been like this and I used the this Belkin cable to avoid adapters:
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/HM792ZM/A/be...
Hammy98 said:
I'm not familiar with the Shures that you have however I have had a few different pairs of headphones over the last few years.
Do they connect using an Aux to Aux cable? I.e can the cable be removed from the Shures? - My last few pairs have been like this and I used the this Belkin cable to avoid adapters:
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/HM792ZM/A/be...
Technically it's still an adapter, albeit in a form of long cable of specific, limited use.Do they connect using an Aux to Aux cable? I.e can the cable be removed from the Shures? - My last few pairs have been like this and I used the this Belkin cable to avoid adapters:
https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/HM792ZM/A/be...
Shure sell their own lightning cable/adapter, but you've guessed it, the reviews are in majority negative pointing to weak and temperamental connector.

Bullitt Five-Oh said:
Technically it's still an adapter, albeit in a form of long cable of specific, limited use.
Shure sell their own lightning cable/adapter, but you've guessed it, the reviews are in majority negative pointing to weak and temperamental connector.

Ahh fair enough, I'd taken the original post as that you wanted just a single cable to the phone. I think you may be stuck to be honest.Shure sell their own lightning cable/adapter, but you've guessed it, the reviews are in majority negative pointing to weak and temperamental connector.

On my last couple of iphones the lightning port has lasted about a year and a half each time - annoying as I usually take out a 2 year contract!
The cables tend to last half of that, however apple usually just exchange them with no fuss even out of warranty. The adapter that they offer would probably be the same.
Edited by Hammy98 on Friday 26th October 12:03
Hammy98 said:
Ahh fair enough, I'd taken the original post as that you wanted just a single cable to the phone. I think you may be stuck to be honest.
On my last couple of iphones the lightning port has lasted about a year and a half each time - annoying as I usually take out a 2 year contract!
The cables tend to last half of that, however apple usually just exchange them with no fuss even out of warranty. The adapter that they offer would probably be the same.
It looks like I am going to either get the Xs and live without audio or not get it at all. That's the frustrating bit and I don't get what game are they playing to be honest. The latest audio hardware they have in their iPads makes them sound like good quality audio equipment, certainly punching above their weight. And then they go and chop its arms of only because of greed (dressed up as improving the user experience). On my last couple of iphones the lightning port has lasted about a year and a half each time - annoying as I usually take out a 2 year contract!
The cables tend to last half of that, however apple usually just exchange them with no fuss even out of warranty. The adapter that they offer would probably be the same.
J8 SVG said:
If you take audio quality that seriously that none of these solutions work for you then maybe the iPhone isn't the music listening hardware for you.
The law of diminishing returns applies here, Apple managed to make their audio sound very well, so well in fact many say that their latest iPads sound better than their dedicated portable players costing as much or more. I'm sure I'd be more than happy with iPhones sound quality too. I own a Sony ZX2 and to be honest it doesn't sound much better than the flagship Sony phone, in blind A/B testing I doubt I'd tell a difference (they both sound really good). Of course Sony decided to do the same thing now with their top of the line phones and removed the audio port providing a USB-C dongle instead.What are the reviews saying on the Apple site? usually it is people holding a grudge that they have to use the adapter or that they now have to buy one as the XS doesnt ship with it in the box. Used one for 2years in my iPhone no problem.
In fact I would say it is better; a lot of earphones need repairing as the 3.5mm connector takes a battering but the lightning adapter gives it a bit more breathing space
In fact I would say it is better; a lot of earphones need repairing as the 3.5mm connector takes a battering but the lightning adapter gives it a bit more breathing space
Are the adaptors that bad? I'm about to jump from my 6S to the XS Max and I use wired B&W P5's with a headphone amp. It's annoying you don't get the adaptor out of the box but that was going to be my solution. There's no way I'd be using AirPods. They just fall out of my ears and sound bad. I'd like to upgrade to P7's but I'd be using those wired as I don't want to charge up yet another device.
tinytim123 said:
What are the reviews saying on the Apple site? usually it is people holding a grudge that they have to use the adapter or that they now have to buy one as the XS doesnt ship with it in the box. Used one for 2years in my iPhone no problem.
In fact I would say it is better; a lot of earphones need repairing as the 3.5mm connector takes a battering but the lightning adapter gives it a bit more breathing space
In fact I would say it is better; a lot of earphones need repairing as the 3.5mm connector takes a battering but the lightning adapter gives it a bit more breathing space

Not to mention the fact that if you want to listen to audio and charge at the same time you need another type of adapter or a wireless charger.
I had always thought it was done for space and sealing, rather than pure greed. Its tricky to make things thinner when you have a 3.5mm hole plus surrounding bits, and I presume its also quite tricky to make it waterproof when you have a long thin hole that far inside the body of the phone.
randlemarcus said:
I had always thought it was done for space and sealing, rather than pure greed. Its tricky to make things thinner when you have a 3.5mm hole plus surrounding bits, and I presume its also quite tricky to make it waterproof when you have a long thin hole that far inside the body of the phone.
That's what I thought too but then you look at other phone makers like Samsung or LG for example and for them it's somehow not an issue, both packaging and water protection wise (and no notch on Samsungs). If Samsung had a vanilla Android version with guaranteed updates for 3 years of their Galaxy line I'd get that since the screen is even nicer than Xs.Why the dislike for Bluetooth, out of interest?
I use bluetooth headphones as I also want to be able to walk around the kitchen whilst cooking and watching Netflix on a tablet, so the trade off of any loss in sound quality is more than worth it for the flexibility of not being tethered to a cable, but I can't say I've noticed any huge difference in sound quality when listening to music either?
I use bluetooth headphones as I also want to be able to walk around the kitchen whilst cooking and watching Netflix on a tablet, so the trade off of any loss in sound quality is more than worth it for the flexibility of not being tethered to a cable, but I can't say I've noticed any huge difference in sound quality when listening to music either?
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