Taxable income
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rsbmw

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3,466 posts

135 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Looking to sign back up to childcare vouchers as nipper #2 starts nursery in January, however it was closed to new entrants last month. New scheme in place (tax free childcare) with one of the limits being

"You're not eligible if either you or your partner has a taxable income over £100,000"

For taxable income, is this simply salary, or is it salary less personal allowance / pension contributions etc?

I'm in the just above 100k bracket, but I pay 10% into pension to keep me below the bracket where I lose my personal allowance. Am I eligible for tax free childcare?

TIA

XJ75

499 posts

170 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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If your salary (after pension contributions) is > £100k, you will need to increase your pension contributions to bring it under £100k to get the benefits. It also includes any bonuses and other income (rental income etc).

OneManBanned

59 posts

114 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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And I'll tell you what.... you better not have any money in ISAs either. They're just for us plebs.

The Leaper

5,708 posts

236 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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I think this thread may move on to highlight what is wrong with the State benefits system!

R.

The Leaper

5,708 posts

236 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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I think this thread may move on to highlight what is wrong with the State benefits system!

R.

rsbmw

Original Poster:

3,466 posts

135 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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anonymous said:
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Would you tell a couple both earning £43k that they shouldn't use tax free childcare either? They combined bring home the same amount of money that I do to run our household.

2Btoo

3,821 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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rsbmw said:
anonymous said:
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Would you tell a couple both earning £43k that they shouldn't use tax free childcare either? They combined bring home the same amount of money that I do to run our household.
They will bring home more as they will have two lower-rate allowances to count, against your one.

If a system is to be fair it needs to apply to everyone. Who is to define what is a 'lower income'? Mr RSBMW looks positively poor by comparison with my (unearned) £220k/annum income. He should certainly get the benefit of free childcare. And when I look to the guy in charge of Persimmon homes then I am very hard up indeed, so let me sign my kids up as well.

Jimmy Recard

17,550 posts

209 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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rsbmw said:
Would you tell a couple both earning £43k that they shouldn't use tax free childcare either? They combined bring home the same amount of money that I do to run our household.
I’d be of the opinion that they should, but I wouldn’t tell anyone what they should or should not do, unless they asked me

GT03ROB

14,024 posts

251 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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rsbmw said:
anonymous said:
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Would you tell a couple both earning £43k that they shouldn't use tax free childcare either? They combined bring home the same amount of money that I do to run our household.
...or claim child benefit??

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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anonymous said:
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You could say surely you should be able to afford healthcare / pay for it privately.
But £100k 3 kids no working partner a number of good holidays a year average but far from new Cars doesn’t leave much

NickCQ

5,392 posts

126 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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2Btoo said:
Mr RSBMW looks positively poor by comparison with my (unearned) £220k/annum income.
biggrin

Jimmy Recard

17,550 posts

209 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Welshbeef said:
You could say surely you should be able to afford healthcare / pay for it privately.
But £100k 3 kids no working partner a number of good holidays a year average but far from new Cars doesn’t leave much
Of course if you spend all your money you’ll have none left confused

bmwmike

8,717 posts

138 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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anonymous said:
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What's that got to do with anything?

anonymous said:
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Is it? In any case by deferring today's income to later on in life, one is lowering their income and is by definition then on a lower income.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Jimmy Recard said:
Welshbeef said:
You could say surely you should be able to afford healthcare / pay for it privately.
But £100k 3 kids no working partner a number of good holidays a year average but far from new Cars doesn’t leave much
Of course if you spend all your money you’ll have none left confused
You totally miss the point.

98elise

32,617 posts

191 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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The Leaper said:
I think this thread may move on to highlight what is wrong with the State benefits system!

R.
Why? I'm sure someone on 100k has paid a ton more tax and NI than most of the population.

tighnamara

2,842 posts

183 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Welshbeef said:
anonymous said:
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You could say surely you should be able to afford healthcare / pay for it privately.
But £100k 3 kids no working partner a number of good holidays a year average but far from new Cars doesn’t leave much
If the partner is not working why would there be a need for child care.

audi321

6,161 posts

243 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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rsbmw said:
I'm in the just above 100k bracket, but I pay 10% into pension
You need to pay more into this rather than pissing around with childcare vouchers!

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

254 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Welshbeef said:
Jimmy Recard said:
Welshbeef said:
You could say surely you should be able to afford healthcare / pay for it privately.
But £100k 3 kids no working partner a number of good holidays a year average but far from new Cars doesn’t leave much
Of course if you spend all your money you’ll have none left confused
You totally miss the point.
No he doesn't.

I'm sorry, but someone who manages to have more than one 'good' holiday a year should not be claiming nursery fees.

47 weeks of full time nursery at my sons old nursery is £10,200 a year.

If you don't go on 2 or 3 'good' holidays you wouldn't need financial help.



was8v

2,013 posts

225 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Wednesday 7th November 2018
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gizlaroc said:
No he doesn't.

I'm sorry, but someone who manages to have more than one 'good' holiday a year should not be claiming nursery fees.

47 weeks of full time nursery at my sons old nursery is £10,200 a year.

If you don't go on 2 or 3 'good' holidays you wouldn't need financial help.
Sorry I’m on about child benefit to me it is a universal benefit period.