Ruf or not ?
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interloper

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2,747 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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Found this advert on another forum, its supposed to be a CTR but it doesnt quite gel? A couple of things imediately spring to mind, its got turbo arches at the rear, are'nt all CTR's narrow bodied ? And the usual tell tale Ruf NACA ducts are missing from on top of the rear wings?

Anyway its still a stunning piece of kit but is it the real deal ?

www.autosalon-singen.de/Katalogfahrzeug_RecordView_DetailAll.cfm?fahrzeugID=02310_0030_02_02&languageID=GB

Marki

15,763 posts

297 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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I think with the good Dr Ruf you can specifie what ever you want on your car , if you are prepared to pay .


it shows the VIN number so im sure you can verifie the car , it a fine looking beast

Marki

15,763 posts

297 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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And having looked over their site they do not seem a like a fleece em and scarper type outfit ,, you never know

Joe911

2,763 posts

262 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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I'm no Ruf expert.

It seems to me that it's unbadged. Does that not imply that it's not a Ruf-built car - but a car given to Ruf to convert to CTR spec. Not that it's a bad thing - just a question of determining the derivation. I would assume you can ask Ruf to verify it's parentage.

Does look the part - if ya like turbo's

aasc

358 posts

260 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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You should get it just for this: "An intelligent air circulation gives the 911 CTR Porsche a top place relating to the "W value" among the fast sports cars."

Marki

15,763 posts

297 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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aasc said:
You should get it just for this: "An intelligent air circulation gives the 911 CTR Porsche a top place relating to the "W value" among the fast sports cars."




How well do you speak or write German

danww

6,914 posts

257 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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Gorgeous.

And surely a bargain at 66K euros.

adamt

2,825 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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A couple of people have asked about this car, sorry this is a copy and paste from an earlier email i wrote:

This is a ruf car, and i showed this to mr ruf 2 months ago. And he
didnt know it until we did some detective work...

this car has some seriously colourful history. If you notice this car
is actually a widebody. But
there were no CTR's built by ruf in widebody(except one for japan, widebody goes against the whole principle of the ctr concept)

Anyway this car still has a ruf vin number, and is number 18.

Originally this car was a beautiful sky blue colour and was sold to
french gentleman. Who unsurprisingly smashed it to bits on an autoroute. It was then bought by
this owner who thought it would be a good idea to repaint it black,
put some non ruf parts on it and make it a widebody....absolute
travesty in my opinion. This was not restored at RUF, RUF was not even aware that the car had been totalled.

To bring it back would cost, a lot of money.

Its a real shame imho.

all the best
adam

danww

6,914 posts

257 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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danww said:
Gorgeous.

And surely a bargain at 66K euros.


Having now read Adam's post ... shows what I know!

adamt

2,825 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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The problem with cars like these is if its too good to be true...

interloper

Original Poster:

2,747 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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Thanks Adam, colourful past indeed ! I shall pass your info onto the forum I found this on in the first place.

GuyR

2,535 posts

309 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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I asked Adam about this car a while ago. If it had been a genuine CTR in Black it would already be in my garage

I too had noticed the wide-body which was what made me immediately think it was 'not right'.

Auto-Salon Singen is an amazing showroom (I visited 2 yrs ago), but most of the cars on their website are not on their premises, but are SOR adverts.

v15ben

16,175 posts

268 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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Yep that is a great car and the dealer has possibly the coolest selection of cars anywhere in Europe

zonk

18 posts

255 months

Wednesday 11th May 2005
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The dealer is Kosher (well, not literally, although never asked them) but this looks like it could be a genuine RUF. The main RUF site (www.ruf-automobile.de/english/index1.htm) has some examples and the model at Auto-Salon-Singen looks pretty good.

The guys (and gals) at Auto-Salon-Singen are ok. They're the real deal. Fahrzeugschein and Fahrzeugbrief will have all the previous details etc. if you're still worried.

andys2

869 posts

285 months

Wednesday 11th May 2005
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5 CLK-GTR's!! Now thats just greedy!!

speedychrissie

2,994 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th May 2005
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zonk. not trying to undermine you or anything. but adamT has already given quite a good history of the car above. and i think its fair to say that he is one of the best people to aks about all things RUF.

chris

Bodo

12,554 posts

293 months

Wednesday 11th May 2005
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zonk said:
Fahrzeugschein and Fahrzeugbrief will have all the previous details etc. if you're still worried.
Probably not when it was reimported from France (or any other foreign country) as Adam suggested; as the Fahrzeugbrief will only cover the German registration history.

adamt

2,825 posts

279 months

Wednesday 11th May 2005
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Bodo said:

zonk said:
Fahrzeugschein and Fahrzeugbrief will have all the previous details etc. if you're still worried.

Probably not when it was reimported from France (or any other foreign country) as Adam suggested; as the Fahrzeugbrief will only cover the German registration history.


The car was sold to a french gentelman but he did not register it in france. Back then france did not accept ruf as a manufacturer and thus would not allow french(RUF Vin) owners to register their cars.

all the best
adam

Guy Humpage

13,118 posts

311 months

Wednesday 11th May 2005
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Genuine or not, that car is glorious.