Getting the hang of v8v manual transmission
Getting the hang of v8v manual transmission
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klee168168

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155 posts

140 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Folks, this isn’t my first manual. But I have stalled numerous times trying to get out of first gear in the v8v. I gas while I’m letting go of the clutch simultaneously but always stalling. Am I doing something wrong? I know the clutch engagement point is supposed to be higher than most cars and you have to step down deep in order to shift. Is it just practice or don’t do it simultaneously?

TR-Spider

339 posts

109 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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What year/engine?

In my '07 4.3 I almost need no gas at all to get the car rolling, as the electronics keep the engine from stalling.
So I allow a time-fraction of delay between closing the cutch and opening the gas. That also keeps the clutch from slipping...


klee168168

Original Poster:

155 posts

140 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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MY2013. I give it slight gas as I’m easing the clutch. You’re saying don’t gas it until the car starts rolling?

TR-Spider

339 posts

109 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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klee168168 said:
You’re saying don’t gas it until the car starts rolling?
Basically yes.
I found that the electronics even push against uphill or against light braking.
I understand it's somewhat counter-intuitive, as the car has quite some weight and 1st (and reverse) are long legged.
Best to try somewhere empty.

V8V Pete

2,536 posts

157 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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For slow manoeuvring gently lift clutch with no input on accelerator (gas) peddle. This uses the car's anti-stall software to control the throttle. As soon as you touch the gas the anti-stall doesn't help you any more and you can stall it as 1st (but even more so reverse) are highish ratios.

For normal driving use clutch and throttle as normal and enjoy smile

klee168168

Original Poster:

155 posts

140 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Ok I’m stalling a bit less now that I let the car roll when easing off the clutch and pressing the gas gently. Still not perfect though. Seems to stall more when I suddenly gas it. Almost have to SLOWLY gas it. Not like my other manuals I’ve driven. I cannot seem to figure out on how to get a fast start.

Edited by klee168168 on Saturday 24th November 17:32

Dewi 2

1,935 posts

96 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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If I suspect circumstances when a stall might occur, I simply use about 2,000 rpm throttle, then lift the clutch. At the moment of clutch bite, the 'revs' will of course reduce, so then press the accelerator a little more as appropriate.

I don't know whether the anti stall has been fitted to all Vantages, but I must try moving off without touching the accelerator, to see what happens.

One of the benefits of a twin plate clutch replacement, is a reduced likelihood of stalling, because the bite point is less sudden.






AstonV

1,657 posts

137 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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There are posts on 6speedonline of stalling problems. I have not had this problem with mine. I have stalled it, but it was always my fault not the cars. It will creep forward without stalling and foot off the gas. I always engage the sport button, been told that does help. Maybe just drive more aggressive for faster starts.

klee168168

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155 posts

140 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Seems like you have to gas it a little harder AFTER call starts rolling. You guys notice a harder accerlation is needed to prevent stalling?

AstonV

1,657 posts

137 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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You might want to get it checked out. I don't really notice much difference between mine and an American 6 speed when it comes to stalling. Once you get used to it, you should never stall it. It will stall in reverse more easily, you just need to be more aggressive, avoid backing up an incline. It has a ridiculously tall gear and easy to burn the clutch.

klee168168

Original Poster:

155 posts

140 months

Friday 30th November 2018
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Got it checked out. Nothing is wrong with it. No recalls or funny business. I was told that v8v doesn’t do well under low RPMs. So better to give it more gas as you are rolling forward.