OPC Deposits
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Miopyk

1,138 posts

173 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Just pay your deposit with a credit card and you're covered.

Juno

4,485 posts

277 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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In the case of failures I've known the manufacturer to step in and cover deposits.

I'm not talking Porsche here I'm talking in general,the manufacturer has more to loose than the deposits at one dealership,that sort of thing could start a loss of faith in the brand as many customers see the transaction being with the brand and not specifically the dealer.

av185

20,464 posts

155 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Some years back a southern located OPC went bust. Don't know which one or who owned the franchise.

Porsche GB stepped in and refunded all deposits.

HTP99

25,057 posts

168 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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Juno said:
In the case of failures I've known the manufacturer to step in and cover deposits.

I'm not talking Porsche here I'm talking in general,the manufacturer has more to loose than the deposits at one dealership,that sort of thing could start a loss of faith in the brand as many customers see the transaction being with the brand and not specifically the dealer.
Yep, Renault dealer here, when a dealer just outside of our area went bust 10 years ago, before we ultimately took it over all orders were distributed to other dealers, no money was lost it was all covered.

gred

459 posts

197 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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av185 said:
Some years back a southern located OPC went bust. Don't know which one or who owned the franchise.

Porsche GB stepped in and refunded all deposits.
Was that Malaya in Billingshurst?

av185

20,464 posts

155 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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gred said:
av185 said:
Some years back a southern located OPC went bust. Don't know which one or who owned the franchise.

Porsche GB stepped in and refunded all deposits.
Was that Malaya in Billingshurst?
Honestly cannot remember.

Juno

4,485 posts

277 months

Saturday 24th November 2018
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anonymous said:
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The dealer you order the car with.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

82 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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How do you know the money isn't put in some sort of 'ring fenced' account?

Personal view is use a credit card for the deposit if you have concerns.

Taffy66

5,964 posts

130 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Erniemcp said:
If it were protected it’s required to say so in the contract. None of the contracts I’ve had/have mention it. Your credit card may not protect you if the vendor goes into receivership . The broader Observation I was making is how as a group of buyers we provide free working capital to the dealers without question. For cars the dealers don’t have confirmation on or have paid any money to HQ for yet . When the car does get on site it’s almost the first not time I get a prompt call from the dealer looking for their money especially if it’s month end. They care about use of money but we seem not to. As much as we love their cars the relationship does seem very skewed.
About 20years ago i placed a £3k deposit on the much mooted but ultimately ill fated Lotus M250..I did so at the London Motorshow and subsequently the retailer i placed the deposit with went bankrupt.
After just a phone call to the Credit card company i used, i had a full no quibble refund..A friend who also placed a deposit at the same time with the same retailer for the same car, lost his deposit as he'd paid cash..

Juno

4,485 posts

277 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Taffy66 said:
About 20years ago i placed a £3k deposit on the much mooted but ultimately ill fated Lotus M250..I did so at the London Motorshow and subsequently the retailer i placed the deposit with went bankrupt.
After just a phone call to the Credit card company i used, i had a full no quibble refund..A friend who also placed a deposit at the same time with the same retailer for the same car, lost his deposit as he'd paid cash..
Wow yes I remember that,would have been a cracking car! How time flys.

Cheib

25,332 posts

203 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Any deposit you place e on anything as a consumer won’t be ring fenced....whether it’s a sofa, kitchen or a car. That won’t change as there is a rick element to these transactions for the vendor. On a Porsche it’s small but it’s still there. No idea how the cash flows but given it’s a Porsche GB policy my guess is that they get some of the deposit and more than likely Porsche AG takes some or perhaps most of it...after all they have massive working capital needs.

I was in my OPC between Xmas and New Year a couple of years ago....a buyer had walked away from deposits on two cars which they were scrambling to sell that day as needed them in their year end numbers. One of them was a Cayenne with a stty spec which they’d definitely have struggled to shift.



av185

20,464 posts

155 months

Sunday 25th November 2018
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Be interesting to know whether Porsche owned OPCs provide more protection than franchised or independent OPCs.

No idea who owned the OPC previously referred to that went bust.

boitjie

124 posts

103 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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When I placed an order for a 718S (which later was changed to a GTS) I was told the deposit is refundable until the order is locked.

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

293 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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I only give a deposit when I order a car In the spec and then the OPC pay Porsche it.

No money is held at OPC level. I have never had to leave a OPC sweetner in cash.

PS2018

323 posts

101 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Do Porsche own any OPC in the U.K. apart from Reading?
I had thought al the opc’s were owned by the likes of Sytner/Penske, JCT, Pendragon etc etc

av185

20,464 posts

155 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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Rybrook have a few including Chester.

Kendal is independently owned. As are a few others.

Adam B

29,653 posts

282 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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PS2018 said:
Do Porsche own any OPC in the U.K. apart from Reading?
PCGB own Guildford, Hatfield, Mayfair, Reading and West London (Chiswick)

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

184 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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First couple of orders we placed a deposit was needed but nothing down more recently until spec locked in.

PS2018

323 posts

101 months

Monday 26th November 2018
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@Adam B - thanks