Shmee DBS video.
Discussion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etsVxSMlsS4
After watching this i have realized i really do not like the dash, its just too bland.
I much prefer the stylish dials in my Vantage and i even prefer the pop up sat nav.
Imo the dash of the new Bentley Continental is far superior
Oh good just saved myself a fortune!.
After watching this i have realized i really do not like the dash, its just too bland.
I much prefer the stylish dials in my Vantage and i even prefer the pop up sat nav.
Imo the dash of the new Bentley Continental is far superior
Oh good just saved myself a fortune!.
Edited by cayman-black on Sunday 25th November 14:54
I think the new dbs is a stunner and would have one if I could afford it. Aston martin have totally nailed the design. I agree about the interior cb, but I’d still have one.
Shmee on the other hand I just dont get it, how is this guy taken seriously? He describes the steering and handling as ‘nice’ ffs. Only a moron would appreciate that level of analysis.
Shmee on the other hand I just dont get it, how is this guy taken seriously? He describes the steering and handling as ‘nice’ ffs. Only a moron would appreciate that level of analysis.
It's a fantastic GT car, so much effortless pace on tap, but the interior is very close to a DB11. It's 75% there as far as the exterior is concerned, just the wheels and everything forward of the a-pillar lets it down for me, bonnet aside. That grille is just too gaping, it'd get tiresome clearing all the plankton out of it on a regular basis.
Don't watch Schmee videos as a rule as I find them a difficult watch.
Don't watch Schmee videos as a rule as I find them a difficult watch.
AlexT said:
I agree Cayman. The new Continental GT interior is beautiful in comparison. Even an E-Class interior for its price-point looks superior.
Agree the interior is a little dull on the DBS, i loved the vanquish dash when it was released and ported onto the vantage and still do. That said it’s far better than new vantage and I find this dash hideous! Gettoff said:
It's a fantastic GT car, so much effortless pace on tap, but the interior is very close to a DB11. It's 75% there as far as the exterior is concerned, just the wheels and everything forward of the a-pillar lets it down for me, bonnet aside. That grille is just too gaping, it'd get tiresome clearing all the plankton out of it on a regular basis.
Don't watch Schmee videos as a rule as I find them a difficult watch.
My thoughts too matey, the front is gopping. In the real world I think the DB11 AMR is the one to get, that said, if I had a large enough pot of gold I'd possibly shoot for the DBS just because I could Don't watch Schmee videos as a rule as I find them a difficult watch.
- However, it doesn't make me yearn for it like the long out of production shed I own.Edited by dbs2000 on Monday 26th November 09:33
AlexT said:
I agree Cayman. The new Continental GT interior is beautiful in comparison. Even an E-Class interior for its price-point looks superior.
Yes , even the new A class has a great dash for a hatchback, class leading.Agree i do prefer the Vanquish dash and the pop up sat nav, nice and neat. The screen on the new (DBS & Vantage) one even has thick plastic all round it, would be better if it was all screen like the new rear view mirrors.
soofsayer said:
Shmee on the other hand I just dont get it, how is this guy taken seriously? He describes the steering and handling as ‘nice’ ffs. Only a moron would appreciate that level of analysis.
In fairness to Shmee, Astons are pretty low on pecking order in the 'YouTube popularity' stakes, so he knows that the appreciation for a car such as the DBS is a small group who might not even subscribe to the channel. As time goes on vlogging has become more like motoring journalism, and instead of content being solely about cars owned by the individual, they get a chance to experience something new from a manufacturer, and with the audience watching, it's good publicity for the manufacturer.The point I mention regarding the popularity (or lack of) centres around the perception of Aston Martins being slow, driven by old men, and being outdated from registration day the factory. The general reception the cars get (be it 2nd century, VH or NP cars) is that the majority of the audience are only interested in Ferrari, Lambo and McLaren, and their opinion is swayed by the commentary of content creators. Any JWW video with Aston content, he without fail will explain how the car in question (new Vantage and GT8 as examples), are GT cars rather than sports cars, and if they don't have a dual clutch transmission, they're automatically a bit rubbish. No doubt he'll ridicule the Valkyrie when he gets his hands on it and describe it as a GT car
In all this, the strangest choice for me was for SoL to make some content with the DB11 AMR; a car that's little understood in Aston circles, let alone the wider world, and certainly on his channel where Lambos and lairy wraps are a must. As noted in this thread, it's probably the current sweet spot of the V12 range - most of the mechanicals and dynamics of the DBS, without the price. Personally I loved the original V12 DB11, so a tinkered one with more sure footing and a power hike is welcome.
Reading the comments on Shmee's DBSS video, comparisons to the 812SF range from accurate, to those with confirmation bias. I have no doubt the 812 is quicker on track, but when you need to be around 8500rpm to produce peak power, I'd wager the DBS is more usable on the road, and just as capable of travelling at warp speed from A to B in comfort. The infamous Top Gear drag race video gets a mention a fair bit - strangely though, the same critics who say it's definitive proof that it's slower than an AMG GTR, will refuse to accept the widely publicised acceleration stats from numerous sources that are to the contrary. Strange behaviour from people who'd ordinarily decide a cars ability purely on paper without so much as sitting in it.
My absolute bugbear though is the comparison people make about exhaust notes. Until Ferrari and Lambo have to turbocharge their V12's, it's easy to say the AM31 engine doesn't sound as good (even though it makes 8/10 of the noise with much more power and torque than the AM29 it replaced). Contrast it with the noise a 488 makes; as good as it might be technically - it doesn't sound very special at all. Ferrari have stated that the front engine V12 GT platform will not be turbocharged though, so there might be a wait. IMO though, Aston currently makes the best sounding turbocharged engine on the market, and in DBS state of tune, it's wonderful.
To conclude, I've become a ranty old man in my middle age
dbs2000 said:
Gettoff said:
It's a fantastic GT car, so much effortless pace on tap, but the interior is very close to a DB11. It's 75% there as far as the exterior is concerned, just the wheels and everything forward of the a-pillar lets it down for me, bonnet aside. That grille is just too gaping, it'd get tiresome clearing all the plankton out of it on a regular basis.
Don't watch Schmee videos as a rule as I find them a difficult watch.
My thoughts too matey, the front is gopping. In the real world I think the DB11 AMR is the one to get, that said, if I had a large enough pot of gold I'd possibly shoot for the DBS just because I could Don't watch Schmee videos as a rule as I find them a difficult watch.
- However, it doesn't make me yearn for it like the long out of production shed I own.
Not sure about the colour of this one, but overall I still think it’s a great looking car, and the best to date of the new models. Seems that the badges are missing though? No DBS behind the front wheels and no Superleggera badges near the bonnet vents? Are these a delete option? As for the dials/gauges, this was one area I really didn’t like in the new Vantage and it looks the the same here. Much prefer the older classic look. The new central dial containing the revcounter/speedometer/gear indicator is too small, too cluttered and it looks like something you would see on a PlayStation game. But hey ho, that’s the future and it’s here to stay.
Best Regards
Minglar
Best Regards
Minglar
Edited by Minglar on Monday 26th November 13:42
NFC 85 Vette said:
soofsayer said:
Shmee on the other hand I just dont get it, how is this guy taken seriously? He describes the steering and handling as ‘nice’ ffs. Only a moron would appreciate that level of analysis.
In fairness to Shmee, Astons are pretty low on pecking order in the 'YouTube popularity' stakes, so he knows that the appreciation for a car such as the DBS is a small group who might not even subscribe to the channel. As time goes on vlogging has become more like motoring journalism, and instead of content being solely about cars owned by the individual, they get a chance to experience something new from a manufacturer, and with the audience watching, it's good publicity for the manufacturer.The point I mention regarding the popularity (or lack of) centres around the perception of Aston Martins being slow, driven by old men, and being outdated from registration day the factory. The general reception the cars get (be it 2nd century, VH or NP cars) is that the majority of the audience are only interested in Ferrari, Lambo and McLaren, and their opinion is swayed by the commentary of content creators. Any JWW video with Aston content, he without fail will explain how the car in question (new Vantage and GT8 as examples), are GT cars rather than sports cars, and if they don't have a dual clutch transmission, they're automatically a bit rubbish. No doubt he'll ridicule the Valkyrie when he gets his hands on it and describe it as a GT car
In all this, the strangest choice for me was for SoL to make some content with the DB11 AMR; a car that's little understood in Aston circles, let alone the wider world, and certainly on his channel where Lambos and lairy wraps are a must. As noted in this thread, it's probably the current sweet spot of the V12 range - most of the mechanicals and dynamics of the DBS, without the price. Personally I loved the original V12 DB11, so a tinkered one with more sure footing and a power hike is welcome.
Reading the comments on Shmee's DBSS video, comparisons to the 812SF range from accurate, to those with confirmation bias. I have no doubt the 812 is quicker on track, but when you need to be around 8500rpm to produce peak power, I'd wager the DBS is more usable on the road, and just as capable of travelling at warp speed from A to B in comfort. The infamous Top Gear drag race video gets a mention a fair bit - strangely though, the same critics who say it's definitive proof that it's slower than an AMG GTR, will refuse to accept the widely publicised acceleration stats from numerous sources that are to the contrary. Strange behaviour from people who'd ordinarily decide a cars ability purely on paper without so much as sitting in it.
My absolute bugbear though is the comparison people make about exhaust notes. Until Ferrari and Lambo have to turbocharge their V12's, it's easy to say the AM31 engine doesn't sound as good (even though it makes 8/10 of the noise with much more power and torque than the AM29 it replaced). Contrast it with the noise a 488 makes; as good as it might be technically - it doesn't sound very special at all. Ferrari have stated that the front engine V12 GT platform will not be turbocharged though, so there might be a wait. IMO though, Aston currently makes the best sounding turbocharged engine on the market, and in DBS state of tune, it's wonderful.
To conclude, I've become a ranty old man in my middle age
soofsayer said:
Thanks, good post. Just a comment on your comment "the perception of Aston Martins being slow, driven by old men". I dont think Aston help themselves much, I couldn't help but notice a picture posted last week (I think it was on the new vantage thread regarding exhaust pipes) of a beautiful vanquish s volante, clearly a very beautiful marketing picture. The driver however is a balding gentleman.... (no offence intended to anyone folically challenged, I am), but its not screaming youthfulness, just sayin.
That gentleman is Matt Prior, a well established motoring journo. I don't think AML have much say in how hirsute the car reviewers are.....Minglar said:
Not sure about the colour of this one, but overall I still think it’s a great looking car, and the best to date of the new models. Seems that the badges are missing though? No DBS behind the front wheels and no Superleggera badges near the bonnet vents? Are these a delete option? As for the dials/gauges, this was one area I really didn’t like in the new Vantage and it looks the the same here. Much prefer the older classic look. The new central dial containing the revcounter/speedometer/gear indicator is too small, too cluttered and it looks like something you would see on a PlayStation game. But hey ho, that’s the future and it’s here to stay.
Best Regards
Minglar
The badges aren’t a delete option, they just weren’t put on the demonstrators. Best Regards
Minglar
Edited by Minglar on Monday 26th November 13:42
Bincenzo said:
soofsayer said:
Thanks, good post. Just a comment on your comment "the perception of Aston Martins being slow, driven by old men". I dont think Aston help themselves much, I couldn't help but notice a picture posted last week (I think it was on the new vantage thread regarding exhaust pipes) of a beautiful vanquish s volante, clearly a very beautiful marketing picture. The driver however is a balding gentleman.... (no offence intended to anyone folically challenged, I am), but its not screaming youthfulness, just sayin.
That gentleman is Matt Prior, a well established motoring journo. I don't think AML have much say in how hirsute the car reviewers are.....NFC 85 Vette said:
soofsayer said:
Shmee on the other hand I just dont get it, how is this guy taken seriously? He describes the steering and handling as ‘nice’ ffs. Only a moron would appreciate that level of analysis.
In fairness to Shmee, Astons are pretty low on pecking order in the 'YouTube popularity' stakes, so he knows that the appreciation for a car such as the DBS is a small group who might not even subscribe to the channel. As time goes on vlogging has become more like motoring journalism, and instead of content being solely about cars owned by the individual, they get a chance to experience something new from a manufacturer, and with the audience watching, it's good publicity for the manufacturer.The point I mention regarding the popularity (or lack of) centres around the perception of Aston Martins being slow, driven by old men, and being outdated from registration day the factory. The general reception the cars get (be it 2nd century, VH or NP cars) is that the majority of the audience are only interested in Ferrari, Lambo and McLaren, and their opinion is swayed by the commentary of content creators. Any JWW video with Aston content, he without fail will explain how the car in question (new Vantage and GT8 as examples), are GT cars rather than sports cars, and if they don't have a dual clutch transmission, they're automatically a bit rubbish. No doubt he'll ridicule the Valkyrie when he gets his hands on it and describe it as a GT car
In all this, the strangest choice for me was for SoL to make some content with the DB11 AMR; a car that's little understood in Aston circles, let alone the wider world, and certainly on his channel where Lambos and lairy wraps are a must. As noted in this thread, it's probably the current sweet spot of the V12 range - most of the mechanicals and dynamics of the DBS, without the price. Personally I loved the original V12 DB11, so a tinkered one with more sure footing and a power hike is welcome.
Reading the comments on Shmee's DBSS video, comparisons to the 812SF range from accurate, to those with confirmation bias. I have no doubt the 812 is quicker on track, but when you need to be around 8500rpm to produce peak power, I'd wager the DBS is more usable on the road, and just as capable of travelling at warp speed from A to B in comfort. The infamous Top Gear drag race video gets a mention a fair bit - strangely though, the same critics who say it's definitive proof that it's slower than an AMG GTR, will refuse to accept the widely publicised acceleration stats from numerous sources that are to the contrary. Strange behaviour from people who'd ordinarily decide a cars ability purely on paper without so much as sitting in it.
My absolute bugbear though is the comparison people make about exhaust notes. Until Ferrari and Lambo have to turbocharge their V12's, it's easy to say the AM31 engine doesn't sound as good (even though it makes 8/10 of the noise with much more power and torque than the AM29 it replaced). Contrast it with the noise a 488 makes; as good as it might be technically - it doesn't sound very special at all. Ferrari have stated that the front engine V12 GT platform will not be turbocharged though, so there might be a wait. IMO though, Aston currently makes the best sounding turbocharged engine on the market, and in DBS state of tune, it's wonderful.
To conclude, I've become a ranty old man in my middle age
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