Sorry, but more numpty activity by local BiB
Sorry, but more numpty activity by local BiB
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streaky

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19,311 posts

279 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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There is a nursing home nearby where I live. This has a small private car park.

Visitors to the nursing home seldom use the car park, they park on the road (saves a 50 yard walk!). They often park within 15 yards of a junction to reduce the distance even further.

Complaints to the local cop shop and council about the dangers caused by this parking - which often reduces the junction to a single vehicle width - have met with no response.

On the main road (off which is the junction) there is a small parade of shops. Double yellow lines are painted partly outside the largest of these shops - which belongs to a well-known supermarket chain.

Several large lorries delivers to this shop every day. They regularly park on the double yellows, and in so doing obscures exit vision from another turning.

Twice recently SWMBO has seen a police Volvo estate (possibly TrafPol) parked outside this shop while one of the officers purchased commestibles (probably doughnuts ) inside ... on both occasions a delivery lorry was there and parked both illegally and dangerously. SWMBO spoke to the officer who remained in the Volvo on both occasions and received the, "Not our problem, sorry." reply. This despite the obvious danger.

Two days ago, some builders doing work on a house opposite the nursing home parked their (two) cars in the nursing home's private car park. The nursing home manager called the police and no fewer than three (yes, three!) police cars arrived bearing six officers in total (!). They knocked door to door to locate the builders and ordered them to remove their vehicles forthwith or they would be arrested (overheard by SWMBO). The builders did as ordered and the officers departed. No further action was taken. The builders were not asked to produce any documentation ... so one might well assume that there was no suspicion that their vehicles were untaxed and that there were no flags against the VRNs.

Terribly, this appears to be another case of police over-reaction (and very possibly improper reaction) to a trespass situation which contrasts strongly with an apparent refusal to get involved in something that clearly creates a danger and is illegal. In other words, dual standards.

I'm not blaming the BiB who attended the nursing home - no doubt they were "following orders". However, I do criticise the TrafPol (if indeed they were) who refused to take action over the da=ngerous parking - a word in the driver's and manager's shell-likes would have sufficed. Had it been me and not SWMBO, collar numbers would have been taken and a photograph of the scene captured.

When will control room and other officers realise that their apparently high-handed approach is wreaking the destruction of public confidence in the force (sorry, 'service') and in individual BiB?

Streaky

8Pack

5,182 posts

270 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Hey! it's Britain right! .........first time I called them the police were right there. During their call they asked what my job was? Stupidly enough I told them. .........Never been able to get them since. ...Mustn't be high enough in the pecking order!

KB_S1

5,967 posts

259 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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And where did the buliders move their cars too?

Flat in Fifth

48,791 posts

281 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Funnily enough Streaky, during my last AD regular retest we encountered a situation with a delivery artic reversing in a busy High Street in order to make delivery to a supermarket. No names but one of these small local store of a major chain, might have ***** Express in the name.

Anyway having dealt with the situation successfully the training school examiner commented that XXXXX supermarket were a total pita and causing chaos. Basically due to a) buying loads of loal stores and b) making deliveries with the full size artics. Difficult life for Towman as well as the rest of us.

Traffic stops when our local ***** Metro takes a delivery.

Dibble

13,276 posts

270 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Don't know what part of the country you're in Streaky, but the two BiB in the Volvo could have been an Armed Response Vehicle, rather than TrafPol, which might explain their apparent "lack of interest".

Most TrafPol I know wouldn't just ignore a problem like you've described, particularly when a MoP has spoken with them.

Not saying it never happens, mind...

streaky

Original Poster:

19,311 posts

279 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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Dibble said:
Don't know what part of the country you're in Streaky, but the two BiB in the Volvo could have been an Armed Response Vehicle, rather than TrafPol, which might explain their apparent "lack of interest".

Most TrafPol I know wouldn't just ignore a problem like you've described, particularly when a MoP has spoken with them.

Not saying it never happens, mind...
Dibble - nice to hear from you; I can assure you it was not an ARV. SWMBO remembered part of VRN and I made a discreet enquiry through my contacts ... it was TrafPol (quiet words will be had).

Besides which, I hadn't realised that sitting in an ARV absolved any officer from performing his duty.

What would it take to get an officer out of his ARV? SWMBO kicking the side of the delivery lorry? A non-injury acident? A burglary? A rape? A murder? I.e., when is a BiB not a Bib? When the police pick and choose which laws they enforce, they are leading us down the path to anarchy.

Streaky

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

274 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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Streaky - see the Puttit thread on parking.

Cambridge, bet 10 to 1 it has opted out and decriminalised parking and in doing so taken over responsibility from local Plod. Why should they bother for there are footpads, highway men, rogues and vagabonds to be caught - much more serious.

Ever and evermore where you get 10,000 vehicles with only 6,000 parking places someone is going to suffer. And it aint going to get any better. Despite tickets etc drivers are not learning. Hey and try delivering goods as I did in retirement. Its a nightmare.

But as you say a word to the wise may have helped.

DVD

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

286 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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Yes, it seems that double yellow lines are there for trucks to make their deliveries. And for disabled parking of course.

More and more now we find DYLs in places where there is no danger just so that disabled drivers can park. The old idea of DYLs being used solely for road safety has long gone as far as I can tell. With such mixed messages you can't blame Joe Public for getting confused.

streaky

Original Poster:

19,311 posts

279 months

Sunday 15th May 2005
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Streaky - see the Puttit thread on parking.

Cambridge, bet 10 to 1 it has opted out and decriminalised parking and in doing so taken over responsibility from local Plod. Why should they bother for there are footpads, highway men, rogues and vagabonds to be caught - much more serious.

Ever and evermore where you get 10,000 vehicles with only 6,000 parking places someone is going to suffer. And it aint going to get any better. Despite tickets etc drivers are not learning. Hey and try delivering goods as I did in retirement. Its a nightmare.

But as you say a word to the wise may have helped.

DVD
DVD - I appreciate that, I didn't make it sufficiently clear that by parking on the DYLs, the truck obscures exit vision from another road, forcing vehicles to nose into the oncoming traffic (from the right) totally blind. In the Tiv I can get a sightline under the lorry, otherwise I'd have the entire bonnet into traffic before I could see around the lorry - Streaky