Cayenne/panamera/Range Rover hybrid?
Discussion
Looking for a new daily and narrowed it down to these 3
I don’t have any requirements for space/off road ability/mpg etc I just want a car that is comfortable for spending a lot of time in that is nippy enough to make progress. The car is for daily duties eg gym, airport, driving in NCP car parks and sat eating a McDonald’s in and usual stuff - like a bit of space to throw things on back seat and stuff
The cayenne appeals as it’s quick ish but smaller than the Range Rover so guess it’s more nimble and apparently the box is better than the PDK in the Panamera
The panamera appeals as I think it’s a bit cooler and sportier than a cayenne but I prefer the high up seating position in a 4x4 and also it is maybe a bit too sporty for a daily as I have other cars for weekend blasts etc
The Range Rover is probably most comfortable but can’t weigh up the image and is it a bit big and cumbersome for making progress
Got a test drive lined up for them but interested if anyone has any valuable thoughts to add or has been through anything similar
Has to be the hybrid version of each before anyone asks 👍
I don’t have any requirements for space/off road ability/mpg etc I just want a car that is comfortable for spending a lot of time in that is nippy enough to make progress. The car is for daily duties eg gym, airport, driving in NCP car parks and sat eating a McDonald’s in and usual stuff - like a bit of space to throw things on back seat and stuff
The cayenne appeals as it’s quick ish but smaller than the Range Rover so guess it’s more nimble and apparently the box is better than the PDK in the Panamera
The panamera appeals as I think it’s a bit cooler and sportier than a cayenne but I prefer the high up seating position in a 4x4 and also it is maybe a bit too sporty for a daily as I have other cars for weekend blasts etc
The Range Rover is probably most comfortable but can’t weigh up the image and is it a bit big and cumbersome for making progress
Got a test drive lined up for them but interested if anyone has any valuable thoughts to add or has been through anything similar
Has to be the hybrid version of each before anyone asks 👍
Drive them and see. I'd have the Panamera. I think it is more comfy than either of the other two and definitely nicer to driver than the Cayenne. Not driven the RR. How the Panamera manages comfort and handling so well is pretty damn impressive.
Re the PDK not being as good in the Pan as the box in the Cayenne - I've no idea how anyone could come to that conclusion. PDK in the Pan is superb. Launch control in them is damn impressive too if you're feeling childish.
Re the PDK not being as good in the Pan as the box in the Cayenne - I've no idea how anyone could come to that conclusion. PDK in the Pan is superb. Launch control in them is damn impressive too if you're feeling childish.
Well this is a coincidence. That exactly my short list for test drives in the new year.
Before driving them I’m leaning towards the Cayenne. I have a wife son and dog so need the practicality. It’s not slow if you watch the carwow YouTube review he gets 4.4 to 60 which is plenty enough for SUV to me. Put off with no rear seat entertainment option though.
Range Rover I love the way it looks inside and out but used to drive my dads full fat Range Rover and it rolled a lot wasn’t that great if you wanted to hustle it. Lovely in every other way though. Think it might be the best from all the other points of view for my family.
Panemera is the one I really want but it’s 20k more and I have plans for a Caterham in the future so do I need the extra sportiness in my dainty not sure?
Would be really interested to know what you make of them when you get round to a test drive. Especially the various hybrid systems.
Before driving them I’m leaning towards the Cayenne. I have a wife son and dog so need the practicality. It’s not slow if you watch the carwow YouTube review he gets 4.4 to 60 which is plenty enough for SUV to me. Put off with no rear seat entertainment option though.
Range Rover I love the way it looks inside and out but used to drive my dads full fat Range Rover and it rolled a lot wasn’t that great if you wanted to hustle it. Lovely in every other way though. Think it might be the best from all the other points of view for my family.
Panemera is the one I really want but it’s 20k more and I have plans for a Caterham in the future so do I need the extra sportiness in my dainty not sure?
Would be really interested to know what you make of them when you get round to a test drive. Especially the various hybrid systems.
PaulD86 said:
How the Panamera manages comfort and handling so well is pretty damn impressive.
Right? Based on the Sport Turismo Turbo I couldn't figure out how such a large car could be so quick, so comfortable and so precise all at the same time. It was like some kind of voodoo was going on.I have driven all three and have a Pana sport Turismo Turbo.
For performance and handling it is infinitely superior to the SUVs. Finish is also superb. The hatchback adds a bit of space and the higher roofline is much better for rear passengers.
The downside is that it is not huge inside for rear passengers and front doors and roofline are surprisingly shallow. Talk people need to bend a bit to get in. Once in its perfect to drive.
I found the RR dash a complete mess with all sorts of conflicting materials. Lots of space. Handling ok not great.
Cayenne handles well and is a more practical car than the Panamera with much better luggage capacity. Obviousky talker too. I have an older Cayenne as a hacking vehicle and it is bulletproof after 250000km.
For performance and handling it is infinitely superior to the SUVs. Finish is also superb. The hatchback adds a bit of space and the higher roofline is much better for rear passengers.
The downside is that it is not huge inside for rear passengers and front doors and roofline are surprisingly shallow. Talk people need to bend a bit to get in. Once in its perfect to drive.
I found the RR dash a complete mess with all sorts of conflicting materials. Lots of space. Handling ok not great.
Cayenne handles well and is a more practical car than the Panamera with much better luggage capacity. Obviousky talker too. I have an older Cayenne as a hacking vehicle and it is bulletproof after 250000km.
PaulD86 said:
Drive them and see. I'd have the Panamera. I think it is more comfy than either of the other two and definitely nicer to driver than the Cayenne. Not driven the RR. How the Panamera manages comfort and handling so well is pretty damn impressive.
Re the PDK not being as good in the Pan as the box in the Cayenne - I've no idea how anyone could come to that conclusion. PDK in the Pan is superb. Launch control in them is damn impressive too if you're feeling childish.
Just the input I needRe the PDK not being as good in the Pan as the box in the Cayenne - I've no idea how anyone could come to that conclusion. PDK in the Pan is superb. Launch control in them is damn impressive too if you're feeling childish.
Dunno re the gearbox but it said that on an online review so need to see
aeropilot said:
Is this buying new...?
If so, haven't Porsche pulled the plug on their hybrid's because of the battery range issue - and with no date set for return to production?
It would be new yes and good point I don’t knowIf so, haven't Porsche pulled the plug on their hybrid's because of the battery range issue - and with no date set for return to production?
Was on Porsche’s website and it didn’t say anything but you may be right
ntiz said:
Well this is a coincidence. That exactly my short list for test drives in the new year.
Before driving them I’m leaning towards the Cayenne. I have a wife son and dog so need the practicality. It’s not slow if you watch the carwow YouTube review he gets 4.4 to 60 which is plenty enough for SUV to me. Put off with no rear seat entertainment option though.
Range Rover I love the way it looks inside and out but used to drive my dads full fat Range Rover and it rolled a lot wasn’t that great if you wanted to hustle it. Lovely in every other way though. Think it might be the best from all the other points of view for my family.
Panemera is the one I really want but it’s 20k more and I have plans for a Caterham in the future so do I need the extra sportiness in my dainty not sure?
Would be really interested to know what you make of them when you get round to a test drive. Especially the various hybrid systems.
I’ll let you know once driven themBefore driving them I’m leaning towards the Cayenne. I have a wife son and dog so need the practicality. It’s not slow if you watch the carwow YouTube review he gets 4.4 to 60 which is plenty enough for SUV to me. Put off with no rear seat entertainment option though.
Range Rover I love the way it looks inside and out but used to drive my dads full fat Range Rover and it rolled a lot wasn’t that great if you wanted to hustle it. Lovely in every other way though. Think it might be the best from all the other points of view for my family.
Panemera is the one I really want but it’s 20k more and I have plans for a Caterham in the future so do I need the extra sportiness in my dainty not sure?
Would be really interested to know what you make of them when you get round to a test drive. Especially the various hybrid systems.
Range Rover may be best for you I guess but I’m not a family man so may have different needs
Dapster said:
If you have no requirement for sporting pretensions, the XC90 T8 Hybrid is worth a look - Inscription spec with Xenium pack and the optional Bowers and Wilkins hi-fi is pretty special place to spend your days, and good value compared to the Porsche and RR.
Thanks and you’re right they have good specBut sadly I’m one of those guys that discards it because I’d rather have a Porsche or Range Rover (I know, I know!)
jonah35 said:
ntiz said:
Well this is a coincidence. That exactly my short list for test drives in the new year.
Before driving them I’m leaning towards the Cayenne. I have a wife son and dog so need the practicality. It’s not slow if you watch the carwow YouTube review he gets 4.4 to 60 which is plenty enough for SUV to me. Put off with no rear seat entertainment option though.
Range Rover I love the way it looks inside and out but used to drive my dads full fat Range Rover and it rolled a lot wasn’t that great if you wanted to hustle it. Lovely in every other way though. Think it might be the best from all the other points of view for my family.
Panemera is the one I really want but it’s 20k more and I have plans for a Caterham in the future so do I need the extra sportiness in my dainty not sure?
Would be really interested to know what you make of them when you get round to a test drive. Especially the various hybrid systems.
I’ll let you know once driven themBefore driving them I’m leaning towards the Cayenne. I have a wife son and dog so need the practicality. It’s not slow if you watch the carwow YouTube review he gets 4.4 to 60 which is plenty enough for SUV to me. Put off with no rear seat entertainment option though.
Range Rover I love the way it looks inside and out but used to drive my dads full fat Range Rover and it rolled a lot wasn’t that great if you wanted to hustle it. Lovely in every other way though. Think it might be the best from all the other points of view for my family.
Panemera is the one I really want but it’s 20k more and I have plans for a Caterham in the future so do I need the extra sportiness in my dainty not sure?
Would be really interested to know what you make of them when you get round to a test drive. Especially the various hybrid systems.
Range Rover may be best for you I guess but I’m not a family man so may have different needs
jonah35 said:
Ares said:
I was driven in a RR Hybrid and blown away by it. Suits the car perfectly, silent quick progress - in the running about we did the engine only kicked in once.
Does it feel nippy and nimble enough to get round dawdlers without rolling and being too bulky? Update
The Mrs decided she wanted a cayenne hybrid so went in today to order having played about online
I was on the fence but erring towards a panamera so we didn’t have the same car as that just doesn’t seem to make sense
Turns out the cayenne hybrid isn’t being built and there won’t be any until 2020 - no new batteries apparently
The chap there said that it was better than the panamera and better value and newer so that kind of put me off the panamera - ie why would I pay for that given it’s not as good as the cayenne in his opinion. The panamera is still being built apparently
So now the only other option is the Range Rover hybrid or panamera so maybe one of each given she needs one too but The cayenne was the cheapest by quite a margin too so that’s a shame and when I’ve looked at the figures there’s an element of me that just feels that we could emigrate to Tenerife and live a nice life on what we would spend running two cars.
Back to the drawing board
The Mrs decided she wanted a cayenne hybrid so went in today to order having played about online
I was on the fence but erring towards a panamera so we didn’t have the same car as that just doesn’t seem to make sense
Turns out the cayenne hybrid isn’t being built and there won’t be any until 2020 - no new batteries apparently
The chap there said that it was better than the panamera and better value and newer so that kind of put me off the panamera - ie why would I pay for that given it’s not as good as the cayenne in his opinion. The panamera is still being built apparently
So now the only other option is the Range Rover hybrid or panamera so maybe one of each given she needs one too but The cayenne was the cheapest by quite a margin too so that’s a shame and when I’ve looked at the figures there’s an element of me that just feels that we could emigrate to Tenerife and live a nice life on what we would spend running two cars.
Back to the drawing board
ks sake. I really want rid of my Tesla in the new year. I was hoping if there was a problem it would be more like a couple of months wait not a year. I own a RR Autobiography PHEV. I’ve had it 6 weeks.
In electric only mode, it’s very relaxing. Ignore the 31 mile range stated, it’s 20. At the moment, I’m doing lots of short journeys and for that it’s fantastic. I got 750 mile out of the first tank of petrol. There aren’t many more serene ways of getting from A to B.
On longer journeys when using the engine, it’s fine, feel like a normal Rangs Roger. It is less refined than the other engine options and fuel consumption is poor (around 20 mpg). The tax rebate is worth the sacrifice IMO.
Interior is very nice and it’s a lovely place to spend time in.
Neither of the Porsche’s were on my radar. I couldn’t live with the looks of either.
Happy to answer any questions.
In electric only mode, it’s very relaxing. Ignore the 31 mile range stated, it’s 20. At the moment, I’m doing lots of short journeys and for that it’s fantastic. I got 750 mile out of the first tank of petrol. There aren’t many more serene ways of getting from A to B.
On longer journeys when using the engine, it’s fine, feel like a normal Rangs Roger. It is less refined than the other engine options and fuel consumption is poor (around 20 mpg). The tax rebate is worth the sacrifice IMO.
Interior is very nice and it’s a lovely place to spend time in.
Neither of the Porsche’s were on my radar. I couldn’t live with the looks of either.
Happy to answer any questions.
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