RE: Porsche adds AWD to 911 range
RE: Porsche adds AWD to 911 range
Thursday 12th May 2005

Porsche adds AWD to 911 range

Carrera 4 and 4S round out 997 model portfolio


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Porsche Carrera 4/4S
Porsche Carrera 4/4S

Porsche has expanded its 911 model range with the Carrera 4 and 4S all-wheel drive coupes. The new 911s are both 44 mm wider over the rear arches, allowing the rear wheels of the 4 to be fitted with 295/35 ZR 18 tyres, and the 4S with 305/30 ZR 19 tyres.

Powered by the 325bhp 3.6-litre flat-six engine, the Carrera 4 accelerates from 0 to 62mph in 5.1 seconds and has a top speed of 175 mph. The 4S model, with a 3.8-litre engine developing 355bhp, can reach 62 mph in 4.8 seconds and has a top speed of 180mph.

The all-wheel drive system has a multi-disc viscous coupling and transfers between five and 40 per cent of the tractive force permanently to the front wheels, providing them with balanced performance up to and beyond the limits of adhesion, increased straight-line stability and improved traction on slippery roads.

Porsche is following Mercedes and BMW in bringing a form of braking force assistance to the party. Porsche Stability Management (PSM) now has two new functions: the brake system is pre-filled ready for a full brake application, thus eliminating the air gap between the pads and the disc and making stopping distances even shorter.

The second new PSM function is activated if the driver depresses the brake pedal quickly but not forcefully. In this situation, the hydraulic pump builds up extra pressure to bring all the wheels into the ABS range and ensure optimal braking.

In its default setting, Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM) offers a sporty but comfortable basic shock absorber setup, but operation of the sport button activates a noticeably firmer mapped setting. In both settings, however, the suspension ratings are matched at all times to the driving style and road conditions. The active shock absorber system is a standard feature on the 911 Carrera 4S and an optional extra on the Carrera 4. Both models can also be fitted with an optional sports suspension to lower the body by 20 mm; this option includes a mechanical rear axle differential lock.

The optional Sport Chrono Plus package is also available for the new all-wheel drive models. It modifies the engine management characteristics and the control behavior of the PSM and PASM systems.

The 911 Carrera 4 will be priced at £62,930 and the 911 Carrera 4S at £69,900 and will be available in the UK from 22 October 2005.

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krusty

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2,473 posts

276 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Shame they've gone away from the wrap around red lense at the rear. I can't say the new rear is more attractive at all

Wintermute

43 posts

278 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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FYI, more posts here www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=176877&f=48&h=0

Clever marketing using the wide body to market the C4/C4S over the C2/C2S

Yes pity does not have the reflective strip between the rear lights. They could have used that to differentiate between the S and non S models, suprised Porsche marketting department didn't think of that one!

shadowninja

79,776 posts

309 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Um

Is that red one a VW Beetle?

Leithen

13,861 posts

294 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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shadowninja said:
Um

Is that red one a VW Beetle?



Spiritually, without a doubt....

NickD

417 posts

289 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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shadowninja said:
Um

Is that red one a VW Beetle?



My thoughts exactly. And the silver one! I agree with the above - I really like the reflective strip and its a huge shame this has been dropped from the s.

dinkel

27,714 posts

285 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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So what everyday / daily drive 'super'car would I buy if I had about 60-70k to spent?

arcbeer

485 posts

290 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Not exactly a supercar. Current batch of BMW M's, Merc AMG's and Audi RS's will match it.

The_Red_Baron

26 posts

258 months

Thursday 12th May 2005
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Shame on you boys What about style. class, iconic image, how about driving it first before you lay it alongside the Drug dealers car of choice a M3 or the choice of bling Merc AMG neither have style or class. I drove a 997 CS last weekend, and I really mean it when i say it, As i owned a 996 C2 the 997 is just fabulous, sooo fecking good in everyway, that's what they mean when the say A everyday supercar. it really is THAT good. not only that, compared to the Bling of Merc & BMW The 911 has reinvented itself and is understated compared to so called other cool cars. Also worth considering like me these cars are a thing of passion, but, the ever balance of cash has to be considered, when after 3 yrs you come to sell you DD M3 or you king of Bling Merc get ready for a mighty hard kick in the nuts, not so with a 911, the only car that holds it's residual value better than a 911 is the Boxster. Never have i seen such a car that allows you to have your Cake & eat it! Perfect

Marquis_Rex

7,377 posts

266 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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Leithen said:

shadowninja said:
Um

Is that red one a VW Beetle?




Spiritually, without a doubt....

Unfortunately, in this case it's a spiritual successor to the New Beetle

Muncher

12,235 posts

276 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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No wonder it grips so well, those rear tyres are enormous!

wedgepilot

819 posts

310 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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Article said:
The second new PSM function is activated if the driver depresses the brake pedal quickly but not forcefully. In this situation, the hydraulic pump builds up extra pressure to bring all the wheels into the ABS range and ensure optimal braking.



Am I the only one thinking that this sounds a little dubious? You want a quick dab on the brakes, but the computer gives you full-on, drop-anchors braking.

Has anyone on here tried this system out and care to comment?


>> Edited by wedgepilot on Friday 13th May 09:20

arcbeer

485 posts

290 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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The_Red_Baron said:
Shame on you boys What about style. class, iconic image, how about driving it first before you lay it alongside the Drug dealers car of choice a M3 or the choice of bling Merc AMG neither have style or class. I drove a 997 CS last weekend, and I really mean it when i say it, As i owned a 996 C2 the 997 is just fabulous, sooo fecking good in everyway, that's what they mean when the say A everyday supercar. it really is THAT good. not only that, compared to the Bling of Merc & BMW The 911 has reinvented itself and is understated compared to so called other cool cars. Also worth considering like me these cars are a thing of passion, but, the ever balance of cash has to be considered, when after 3 yrs you come to sell you DD M3 or you king of Bling Merc get ready for a mighty hard kick in the nuts, not so with a 911, the only car that holds it's residual value better than a 911 is the Boxster. Never have i seen such a car that allows you to have your Cake & eat it! Perfect


While I can't argue that residuals are unsurpassed. Cool (as proved by Jeremy Clarkson and his cool wall) is another matter. I just don't think 911's are cool, they lack soul. As to reinventing.........come on, the basic concept hasn’t changed in over 50 years.

dinkel

27,714 posts

285 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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arcbeer said:
. . . come on, the basic concept hasn’t changed in over 50 years.


The concept of the wheel is how old?

Come on, over the years technique has improved. From a difficult to control boy racer it has evolved in a true supercar: daily drive ffs. Can't say that of a Rari. Running costs anyone . . .

GarryM

1,113 posts

310 months

Friday 13th May 2005
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wedgepilot said:

Article said:
The second new PSM function is activated if the driver depresses the brake pedal quickly but not forcefully. In this situation, the hydraulic pump builds up extra pressure to bring all the wheels into the ABS range and ensure optimal braking.




Am I the only one thinking that this sounds a little dubious? You want a quick dab on the brakes, but the computer gives you full-on, drop-anchors braking.

Has anyone on here tried this system out and care to comment?


>> Edited by wedgepilot on Friday 13th May 09:20


I thought exactly the same!

Also:
Article said:
PASM offers a sporty but comfortable basic shock absorber setup, but operation of the sport button activates a noticeably firmer mapped setting. In both settings, however, the suspension ratings are matched at all times to the driving style and road conditions..

How can both settings be matched to road and driving style and yet be different?