Old auto transmission, shifting into D

[Ed/L152]

Having never learnt much about traditional auto transmissions previously, I have a quick question about shifting into D or R: is it more sympathetic on the clutch bands to briefly hold the transmission on the foot-brake whilst shifting into D or R to prevent an immediate creep, or doesn't it matter?

I'm guessing it might not matter because as soon as the clutch bands bite it pulls the rpm of the turbine of the torque converter briefly down to zero, then immediately all the load is on the torque converter as the vehicle starts moving up to tick-over/creep speed.

Cheers!

[mikes2w]

On mine, you must have your foot on the brake pedal to shift out of park to move to D or R

[Mr Teddy Bear]

When the engine is cold and thus the engine revs are higher than normal you always want to have your foot on the brake, especially with rear disk hand brake!

[Sardonicus]

You should always be on the brakes shifting to D or R from Neutral or Park and always make sure the car is stationary when swapping from forward to reverse i.e changing direction , and never ever shift into Park whilst the car is still moving in extreme cases the Park pawl can break out/exit the case/housing thus destroying your transmission

Edited by Sardonicus on Wednesday 19th December 22:58

[henrycrun]

If this is a traffic lights question, no need to move D - P - D, just hold it stationary with the handbrake while waiting.

[Sardonicus]

henrycrun said:

If this is a traffic lights question, no need to move D - P - D, just hold it stationary with the handbrake while waiting.

Agree with this even if the junction is busy

[anonymous-user]

Sardonicus said:

henrycrun said:

If this is a traffic lights question, no need to move D - P - D, just hold it stationary with the handbrake while waiting.

Agree with this even if the junction is busy

Putting your car in P in traffic is a poor idea. If you get a rear end shunt, even a low speed one, and the transmission is in P then a minor incident can become a gearbox killing incident when the parking pawl get broken.

[Sardonicus]

dme123 said:

Sardonicus said:

henrycrun said:

If this is a traffic lights question, no need to move D - P - D, just hold it stationary with the handbrake while waiting.

Agree with this even if the junction is busy

Putting your car in P in traffic is a poor idea. If you get a rear end shunt, even a low speed one, and the transmission is in P then a minor incident can become a gearbox killing incident when the parking pawl get broken.

Precisely can you imagine explaining that to the insurance company? .

[NotBenny]

dme123 said:

Sardonicus said:

henrycrun said:

If this is a traffic lights question, no need to move D - P - D, just hold it stationary with the handbrake while waiting.

Agree with this even if the junction is busy

Putting your car in P in traffic is a poor idea. If you get a rear end shunt, even a low speed one, and the transmission is in P then a minor incident can become a gearbox killing incident when the parking pawl get broken.

I’d never thought of that before! Will stop doing it!

[DJP]

henrycrun said:

If this is a traffic lights question, no need to move D - P - D, just hold it stationary with the handbrake while waiting.

That. All day, every day.

[Ed/L152]

Agree with that. The power put into the torque converter whilst stationary at tickover is nothing compared to the power put through it when accelerating.

The main thrust of my question what how vulnerable the clutch bands are to mild abuse.

[ninjag]

I shift to N (not P) and pull the handbrake if sitting at lights for a while. I just find I can relax better rather than sitting on the brakes, besides I don't want to light up the person behind me as I don't like it being done to me, especially with some of these insanely bright brake clusters you get on (German) cars.