993 c4s why no likey?
993 c4s why no likey?
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anonymous-user

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76 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Is it the mileage that puts folks off? if so, is it really worth 20k less than those with low miles all things being equal?

https://www.porscheclubgb.com/car-sales/sell-a-por...

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...


g7jhp

7,026 posts

260 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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1996 C4S with 120k for £52,900

Or

1998 C4S with 74k for £83,995

2 younger, 46k miles less for £31,095 extra.

I'd buy the £53k car as you can use it, there's less to lose and the saving buys a lot of servicing, upgrades or petrol.


anonymous-user

Original Poster:

76 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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that was my logic but seems we may be a minority.. i spoke to well known specialist about it today and a good point was made in that most are bought not to be driven so the market leans towards low milers with high milers not really selling that well unless for buttons

Wilmslowboy

4,640 posts

228 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Can take tens of thousands to take an average car and make it great.


I would suggest that "On a recent 2,500 miles trip, the car only used one litre of oil."

Is not a positive sign...

Also no Hardback seats


g7jhp

7,026 posts

260 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Best to buy on condition. The '96 cat seems to have had alot of maintenance which is good to see, but you'd need to get into the detail and have a Pre Purchase Inspection by an expert e.g Dependable Porsche Indie.

If Good and you want to drive and enjoy the car that's the way I would go.

Spending £84k on a car to sit in the garage with running costs and insurance on the hope it will go up (and not down...) seems mad IMO.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

76 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Wilmslowboy said:
Can take tens of thousands to take an average car and make it great.


I would suggest that "On a recent 2,500 miles trip, the car only used one litre of oil."

Is not a positive sign...

Also no Hardback seats
the absence of hardbacks i can live with but the oil is a more real concern although it seems within spec and not out of kilter with owners' experiences

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1421581&sid=3...


Wilmslowboy

4,640 posts

228 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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RC1 said:
the absence of hardbacks i can live with but the oil is a more real concern although it seems within spec and not out of kilter with owners' experiences

http://911uk.com/viewtopic.php?p=1421581&sid=3...
My old and well worn 147k mile 993 4s used almost none over 3k miles, but it had both cam covers done, which is a common leak spot.

Its not always just oil consumption but also oil leakage driving

anonymous-user

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76 months

Saturday 15th December 2018
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Vendors not had them done and no paperwork from new to 2012 but stamped book including 3 from the porsche shop in tne midlands!

The narrow body at charles ivey looks sensibly priced

cableguy

2,287 posts

231 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Blue interior on the lower miles car does it no favours. Black and Marble/Black are much more sought after and unfortunately 993 second hand interiors are very thin on the ground...

Higher mileage car looks great value for a WB.

C.

anonymous-user

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76 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Remarkable how prices of these things have shot up. They were around 30 in 2012. I have to remind myself not to get nostalgic. I bought a very tidy manual amazon green with linen leather 964c4 in about 2007 and sold in 2009 with 72k for 15k.

It's the rust that scares me with these and even the most diligent ramp based inspection may not reveal what lurks beneath

Doom aside! what a shape and sound.

Wozy68

5,435 posts

192 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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RC1 said:
Remarkable how prices of these things have shot up. They were around 30 in 2012. I have to remind myself not to get nostalgic. I bought a very tidy manual amazon green with linen leather 964c4 in about 2007 and sold in 2009 with 72k for 15k.

It's the rust that scares me with these and even the most diligent ramp based inspection may not reveal what lurks beneath

Doom aside! what a shape and sound.
The 964 is a different beast to the 993 in the rust department as it basically is the same shell as earlier cars with all the inherent possible rust traps. It’s been knowledge by certain members of the Trade for years (at least 9 years) that forgetting B pillars, below headlamps etc for a minute, that the baulkheads especially on the offside can rot through.

As of yet I’ve only heard of possible rot in the chassis legs on the 993, and this seems to vary from car to car, mine had none at near 150K miles for example. That or rust around front and rear scuttles and leading edges of the cills.