ferry disaster
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ruggedscotty

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5,946 posts

233 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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So I see the cars crushed on the ferry with the trucks falling over....

Question ? Who pays for the damage to the cars ? ferry / truck / owner of car

bomb

3,795 posts

308 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Marine cargo is insured. There will be a claim for the damage to the 'cargo'.

road hog

2,649 posts

237 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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dodgy things them Ferrys , dont trust em , fly and hire car for me .

bomb

3,795 posts

308 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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road hog said:
fly and hire car for me .
Thats what you think......!

Popeyed

566 posts

243 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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What is know as Protection and Indemnity, or P&I insurance will pay these claims. Basically third party liability insurance for shipowners, of which damage to cargo carried, whilst in the care of the carrier, would be covered. I’ll keep it simple and not digrese down shifting liability onto vessel charterers depending on what the clauses in the charter party state, and this could still be covered by charterer’s P&I, rather than owners P&I.

Interestingly, the UK still insures the majority of this risk worldwide with eight of the 13 mutual underwriters covering this risk based in the UK.

stevesingo

5,024 posts

246 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Hardly a disaster is it.

Herald of Free Enterprise, the Estonia etc, were disasters.

PH is getting more like the Daily Wail by the day.

Earthdweller

18,012 posts

150 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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I went over that route on Saturday in the height of storm deirdrie

Everything was lashed down

All the ferries on the Holyhead-Dublin route were cancelled and as I sat in cairnryan I was very surprised to see our ferry going

Admittedly I was on the much larger Stena Superfast, but it was still in heck of a wild ride across

Seeing this on the news really made me think

Trevatanus

11,349 posts

174 months

Friday 21st December 2018
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stevesingo said:
Hardly a disaster is it.

Herald of Free Enterprise, the Estonia etc, were disasters.

PH is getting more like the Daily Wail by the day.
What he said smile

chilistrucker

4,543 posts

175 months

Tuesday 25th December 2018
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Earthdweller said:
I went over that route on Saturday in the height of storm deirdrie

Everything was lashed down

All the ferries on the Holyhead-Dublin route were cancelled and as I sat in cairnryan I was very surprised to see our ferry going

Admittedly I was on the much larger Stena Superfast, but it was still in heck of a wild ride across

Seeing this on the news really made me think
It was always a sign of the crossing ahead if the deck crew asked me to lower the landing legs on the trailer, dump the air and leave the tractor unit in gear. Mainly on the Irish routes, also if going down to Bilbao or Santander.

majordad

3,629 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Circa 1982 a couple of army colleagues were on a ferry from Cork to France when the ship was struck by a wave which caused the ship to heavily list. The captain ordered all to the lifeboat stations,my colleagues kitted their wives out , kissed them good bye and sent them to the lifeboats, then they returned to the bar. For hours he attempted very carefully to turn back
(; they were half way across) and it looked as if the ship made sink.
Happily they got back to port but then found their cars crushed by trucks. Later they discovered that their insurance did not cover their cars at sea, and worse the treaty that governed carriage by sea did not either. They were out of pocket for a written off car each.
Some time after this the insurance and legal,situation was altered to cover cars at sea. Too late for them though.