2007 335i walnut blasting
Discussion
Hi all had the above service carried out last week and made all the difference, car has done 83k and no where in the service history is there any suggestion that it has been done so expected it to be as bad as it could get. happy to report that the technician said he'd seen worse so surprised with that, but thanks to the member who mentioned it to me in a previous post not long after I got the car. so can enjoy the car now and look forward to upgrading bits :-)
[quote=mike9009]Hi
Good to hear. What running issues were you having? Did the blast fully solve? Where did you have it done? and how much?
I think I might need similar doing to my 2007 330i.
Many thanks
Just lumpy tick over and slightly jerky when I boot it, but to be honest wasn't too bad and yes fully solved as I said there was nowhere in the service history of it being done so guessed it would benefit any way as I believe it should be done every 35k ish? I must admit I'd never heard of it until it was mentioned my car could do with it. I payed £360 and it was Mill lane automotive in Bristol that done it, very pleased with their service and knowledge
Good to hear. What running issues were you having? Did the blast fully solve? Where did you have it done? and how much?
I think I might need similar doing to my 2007 330i.
Many thanks
Just lumpy tick over and slightly jerky when I boot it, but to be honest wasn't too bad and yes fully solved as I said there was nowhere in the service history of it being done so guessed it would benefit any way as I believe it should be done every 35k ish? I must admit I'd never heard of it until it was mentioned my car could do with it. I payed £360 and it was Mill lane automotive in Bristol that done it, very pleased with their service and knowledge
I suppose its the price you pay for 'more efficient' direct fuel injection, weigh up the cost of walnut blasting and end up prob cheaper to put the fuel in with port fuel injection over the years lol (yes I'm only joking, not meaning to stir anything up as I'm aware there are other benefits to direct injection especially if you have a turbo engine), but I bet someone is doing the maths lol
Elliot2000 said:
mike9009 said:
Hi
Good to hear. What running issues were you having? Did the blast fully solve? Where did you have it done? and how much?
I think I might need similar doing to my 2007 330i.
Many thanks
Mike
2007 might be an n52 - so not direct injection and shouldn’t need itGood to hear. What running issues were you having? Did the blast fully solve? Where did you have it done? and how much?
I think I might need similar doing to my 2007 330i.
Many thanks
Mike
mike9009 said:
Mine is defintely the N53 - lower road tax and nigher mpg than the N52.
What does walnut blasting cost? How much is a new High Pressure Fuel Pump? What do Injectors cost?
Take those costs into account and does £40 or so a year on road tax really offset them?
When I was looking for a petrol E91 earlier this year I only looked for N52s to avoid that grief - my 325i is currently showing 35.3 mpg on the OBC, which looks pretty good to me!
I think the HPFP fix was part of one of the recalls, so probably not an issue any more. BMW never did a N53 injector recall, though it's hard to say why - or maybe it's very obvious why! - since they're amazingly flaky, but it seems they'll fix it if you have a comprehensive BMW warranty, which is not overly expensive for cars with <60K miles, and comes automatically if you buy an approved used car. (And even if you don't: the latest consumer rights act is pretty generous, meaning if you buy one from a dealer and it cocks up within 6 months then the onus is very much - almost to the point of rudeness - on them to prove that the problem isn't something that they need to pay for themselves.)
Anyway, either way, even if it's all equal, the difference in road tax between N52 and N53 is currently more like £80 a year. After 4 years of that, you'll have saved up enough for at least a walnut blast! And that assumes the fuel economy is exactly the same...
But, overall, you are indeed quite right. There are tons of straight six NA BMWs on the second hand market, after all, and all of them tend to be very well specificied. So there's no reason to ever pick an N53, because you'll easily be able to find ten N52 equivalents that are just as good.
Anyway, either way, even if it's all equal, the difference in road tax between N52 and N53 is currently more like £80 a year. After 4 years of that, you'll have saved up enough for at least a walnut blast! And that assumes the fuel economy is exactly the same...
But, overall, you are indeed quite right. There are tons of straight six NA BMWs on the second hand market, after all, and all of them tend to be very well specificied. So there's no reason to ever pick an N53, because you'll easily be able to find ten N52 equivalents that are just as good.
when driven carefully, my N54 is at least as economical than my n52, or so it would seem so far and that is even allowing for a bit of foot down fun, but no, the 500 quid tax and £360 I payed for walnut blasting does not offset any efficiency differences, I was just watching a couple of vids on youtube pointing out the advantages of direct fuel injection, but it does seem costlier over all. but in my eyes the n54 is a tuners dream and a lot of extra power can be had for not necessarily that much money, depending where you do of course. Any way, the blasting done the job and I just need to keep my eye on the injectors now, damn car!!!!! :-)
I've had my n54 engined car for 8 years and in that time of mostly motorway driving at a fairly sensible pace, no track days and no rallying or such like I have had to have the following done:
1 - both turbos replaced
2 - 2 complete sets of injectors
3 - 5 replacement road wheels which cracked - yes that still happens
4 - More sets of brakes than you can shake a stick at until I stopped using main dealers after which my brakes suddenly lasted twice as long
5 - a water pump
6 - radiator replacement
7 - A regular reduced power engine fault when driving that no one has ever managed to diagnose or fix including 4 main dealers and 2 independent specialists.
8 - a replcament clutch - that's fair enough though and reasonable under wear and tear.
In good conscience I could never sell the car to anyone because its a pile of crap, badly made and not worth the money I paid. I also won't buy another BMW again for any reason, so I can't trade it back to BMW. Another 18 months though and I will be rid of the massive pile of s
t that BMW calls a car.
In general, having run Porsches and Ferraris in the past I can say with confidence that its cheaper to run an old V8 Ferrari and the Ferrari would probably be more reliable. The Porsche is definitely cheaper to run and way, way, way more reliable.
1 - both turbos replaced
2 - 2 complete sets of injectors
3 - 5 replacement road wheels which cracked - yes that still happens
4 - More sets of brakes than you can shake a stick at until I stopped using main dealers after which my brakes suddenly lasted twice as long
5 - a water pump
6 - radiator replacement
7 - A regular reduced power engine fault when driving that no one has ever managed to diagnose or fix including 4 main dealers and 2 independent specialists.
8 - a replcament clutch - that's fair enough though and reasonable under wear and tear.
In good conscience I could never sell the car to anyone because its a pile of crap, badly made and not worth the money I paid. I also won't buy another BMW again for any reason, so I can't trade it back to BMW. Another 18 months though and I will be rid of the massive pile of s
t that BMW calls a car.In general, having run Porsches and Ferraris in the past I can say with confidence that its cheaper to run an old V8 Ferrari and the Ferrari would probably be more reliable. The Porsche is definitely cheaper to run and way, way, way more reliable.
I still think mine is a great car, but it hasn't exactly been reliable for me. Then again, the next owner is likely to have a great time with it seeing as I have spent so much keeping it running well.
Turbos have been fine on mine, but injectors, HPFP etc etc have all been done.
I do think that an M6 V10 can't be that much to run though..... Dangerous thoughts haha
Turbos have been fine on mine, but injectors, HPFP etc etc have all been done.
I do think that an M6 V10 can't be that much to run though..... Dangerous thoughts haha
mine needs bits and pieces done, but I did only pay £4900, for it with only 82k on the clock and I don't intend to pay main dealer prices for any repairs, there are refurb turbos on ebay for £390 I think and my mechanic is cheap and knows BMW's, I believe injectors can be picked up for 120 quid each, so ill replace those as or if they need doing, brakes and easy stuff I'll do myself and as they seem to go for 7k plus (or they did the last time I looked) I have a couple of grand to spend before I hit the proper value of the car, but as it is at the moment, it seems to be fine. I also only do about 30 -35 miles a week so mileage will always be low. (I only travel 5 miles a day round trip for work + weekend driving)
Mr Tidy said:
mike9009 said:
Mine is defintely the N53 - lower road tax and nigher mpg than the N52.
What does walnut blasting cost? How much is a new High Pressure Fuel Pump? What do Injectors cost?
Take those costs into account and does £40 or so a year on road tax really offset them?
When I was looking for a petrol E91 earlier this year I only looked for N52s to avoid that grief - my 325i is currently showing 35.3 mpg on the OBC, which looks pretty good to me!


On a steady (70 ish mph) motorway run I would see in excess of 40mpg. But that would be dull - I prefer to take A roads....
Mr Tidy said:
mike9009 said:
Mine is defintely the N53 - lower road tax and nigher mpg than the N52.
What does walnut blasting cost? How much is a new High Pressure Fuel Pump? What do Injectors cost?
Take those costs into account and does £40 or so a year on road tax really offset them?
When I was looking for a petrol E91 earlier this year I only looked for N52s to avoid that grief - my 325i is currently showing 35.3 mpg on the OBC, which looks pretty good to me!
cared about mpg then you would have a 320d.
All cars have maintenance costs, especially old German cars (which all of this generation now fall into). Any example of any of the engines could be a duffer or a marvel and it is luck of the draw.
Mike335i said:
Missing the point though, the N53 has more power and torque as well as more economy. If you only
cared about mpg then you would have a 320d.
All cars have maintenance costs, especially old German cars (which all of this generation now fall into). Any example of any of the engines could be a duffer or a marvel and it is luck of the draw.
Agreed 100% hence my good fortune with the price I paid, it leaves me with money spare to keep it up to scratch and still fall well within the budget of what I should have paid, but buying older cars is always a gamble, not all of us can go out with 50k in our pockets and buy a new m3, however with a bit of tinkering, mine wont be far off the performance ;-)cared about mpg then you would have a 320d.
All cars have maintenance costs, especially old German cars (which all of this generation now fall into). Any example of any of the engines could be a duffer or a marvel and it is luck of the draw.
timsandford1 said:
In good conscience I could never sell the car to anyone because its a pile of crap, badly made and not worth the money I paid. I also won't buy another BMW again for any reason, so I can't trade it back to BMW. Another 18 months though and I will be rid of the massive pile of s
t that BMW calls a car.
Let me know when you plan to sell it
t that BMW calls a car.
Mike335i said:
Mr Tidy said:
mike9009 said:
Mine is defintely the N53 - lower road tax and nigher mpg than the N52.
What does walnut blasting cost? How much is a new High Pressure Fuel Pump? What do Injectors cost?
Take those costs into account and does £40 or so a year on road tax really offset them?
When I was looking for a petrol E91 earlier this year I only looked for N52s to avoid that grief - my 325i is currently showing 35.3 mpg on the OBC, which looks pretty good to me!
cared about mpg then you would have a 320d.
All cars have maintenance costs, especially old German cars (which all of this generation now fall into). Any example of any of the engines could be a duffer or a marvel and it is luck of the draw.
But my E91 is my (vaguely) sensible daily driver, so I wasn't so bothered about more power, torque and economy - although I did want a petrol straight 6.
I've got a Z4 Coupe for fun drives!
GregK2 said:
timsandford1 said:
In good conscience I could never sell the car to anyone because its a pile of crap, badly made and not worth the money I paid. I also won't buy another BMW again for any reason, so I can't trade it back to BMW. Another 18 months though and I will be rid of the massive pile of s
t that BMW calls a car.
Let me know when you plan to sell it
t that BMW calls a car.
Andy70 said:
GregK2 said:
timsandford1 said:
In good conscience I could never sell the car to anyone because its a pile of crap, badly made and not worth the money I paid. I also won't buy another BMW again for any reason, so I can't trade it back to BMW. Another 18 months though and I will be rid of the massive pile of s
t that BMW calls a car.
Let me know when you plan to sell it
t that BMW calls a car.
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