Remove and refit large suv wheels in a main dealership

[Reciprocating mass]

With the advent of bigger wheels and tyres
Are main dealers taking notice and supplying there staff with wheel lifts or are they still expected to manhandle them on ? Seeing as the guidelines for manual handling are 25kg for men and 16kg for women not taking in other factors, in the commercial vehicle world wheel lifts are standard practice

[nitrodave]

What on earth are you on about?

[Reciprocating mass]

Wheel lifts for fitting wheels after having watched a technician nearly stting out his spine struggling with huge 22inch wheel and tyre combo surely they should be using wheel lifts.
In the commercial vehicle world you use them as standard practice
Suv wheels must be way more than 25kgs with tyres fitted is that clear enough for you

[spikeyhead]

The mass isn't reciprocating, but rotating.

HTH

Edited by spikeyhead on Friday 21st December 08:33

[Jabba1977]

Yes is the straightforward answer - a number of wheel/ tyre combo’s are over 25kg so we have a number of these around the workshop. Many places are still playing with fire with regard to manual handling though

[Reciprocating mass]

That’s good to hear there looking after you
Hopefully others will wake up to the possibility of back injury’s and slipped discs

[caelite]

Reciprocating mass said:

That’s good to hear there looking after you
Hopefully others will wake up to the possibility of back injury’s and slipped discs

I think it's the norm nowadays that even big multinationals just wait for the major class actions to roll in before they do anything, as it is cheaper to maintain their operation and just pay out for occasional injuries.

Prime example of this is your wee supermarket vans (Asda & Tesco) that run that side entry shelved design expecting drivers to lift 20-25kg from ground level to just over 2m on a fairly regular basis. We had back and shoulder injuries in our dept all the time, only one guy claimed, 2 of us where promised by OH that risk assessments where being done.

Edited by caelite on Friday 21st December 11:58

[Reciprocating mass]

Crazy isn’t it you’d think they would want there staff in good condition to avoid days off and staff shortages let alone the possibility of claims

[caelite]

Reciprocating mass said:

Crazy isn’t it you’d think they would want there staff in good condition to avoid days off and staff shortages let alone the possibility of claims

In the supermarket case it was massive case of passing the buck with no clear solutions. The only way to do our deliveries in a safe manner is to either limit the weight going into each tote, which would basically mean not delivering heavy items (20kg cat food bags, 11kg beer/drinks packets, which they often fitted 2 in to a tote). Completely redesigning the way the vans where loaded (currently they are loaded 1st delivery on the top shelf, then work your way down), completely redesign the vans in a more ergonomic fashion, this is what Sainsbury, Co-Op & Waitrose do, their vans are designed so all their loads are at chest level at the highest, they are also half the capacity of the Asda/Tesco vans. Or slash the capacity of the existing fleet by not using the top 2 shelves.

Not to mention the HSE policies regarding lifting up stairs & over distances which the company acknowledged but actively encouraged drivers to ignore, if we felt a delivery was unsafe we had to fill out a sheet & give it to the customer explaining why we couldn't deliver their load to their property, we where never actually given these sheets, we where told by the store manager, and I quote "Why can't you just put your head down and get on with it like everyone else?", by everyone else he was refering to the warehouse staff who where working in a controlled environment with lifting apparatus.

In my case in Asda, Asda house didn't care about the individual branches worries, but set their workload, individual branches where the ones taking the complaints & absences. I'm so glad I got out of it, quit 2 weeks ago, did it almost 2 years, had it's fun moments in the summer, but as more business kept piling on it became utterly soul destroying.

[Flibble]

anonymous said:

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I looked at weights for different sizes for my car - larger alloys are heavier.
It makes sense really, the main weight is in the rim itself and the tyre tread. The tread is fixed for a given rolling radius, so by upping the alloy size you increase the amount of metal required to form the rim and reduce a bit of sidewall and air. The extra metal more than offsets the reduction in sidewall rubber.

[MG CHRIS]

Wheels are easy try lifting gearbox from floor 5ft in the air align the shaft into the hole in the clutch then wiggle like fk to align it and slot it in to the dowels on the block then hold it in place and tighten the bolts. There are plenty more items and things you can do too seriously fk yourself on than lifting car wheels onto hubs.

Oh and for the point above regarding companies helping employees generally they don't care.

[Reciprocating mass]

Id rather not thanks I tend to use transmission jacks in all the garages I have worked in, rather than try to be a hero with a fked back for the rest of my life rendering me disabled, even changing gearboxes in the past on my drive they havn’t needed to be lifted more than half a foot
On to a jack, perhaps you should enter the worlds strongest man competition