Time for a change?
Discussion
Evening all
I’m having a bit of a dilemma - a new business venture means i’ll be doing more miles and my 2015 991 GTS has just ticked over 25k. Another 15k miles over the next 12 months is going to hammer the value so I’m considering a change. I don’t want a porsche as a garage queen so having an additional car in the fleet for work isnt for me, plus I’ve got too many classics and projects to warrant another car. So options are....
1. Keep the GTS. It is awesome and undoubtedly the best car I’ve ever owned/driven. Ignore the impact on value and keep it long term. Porsche warranty available up to 125k miles and 14 years...
2. Cayman 981 GTS. 718 is a great car but back to back driving in a 981 and 718 immediately show the shortcomings of the 718 soundtrack. A lot cheaper monthly than the 991 GTS.
3. Wildcard - my local opc has an endurance racing edition 991.2 with about 30 miles on it. decent spec including burmester and PDCC but no heated seats which is a bit of an issue , however I understand it’s one of 10 uk cars and was bought with speculation in mind and originally had a significant premium over list. Its not sold and the price has reduced over time. To me it seems to be just an S with some natty badges and horrendous stickers (thankfully removed). Question is whether the rarity is likely to command a future premium and keep residuals stronger than a normal S. 992 release is going to have an impact on both 991.1 & .2
Just for interest - my observations from a back to back drive of the 991.2 3.0 turbo v the normally aspirated GTS (both with spirts exhaust on) - turbo feels noticeably faster and more torque. There’s a flat at low RPM before the turbo kicks in which the n/a engine obviously doesn’t suffer from. The aural difference - turbo is disappointing, exhaust is quieter and the boost whistling is a bit irritating. It’s not as marked a difference as between 981 & 718 but the older car sounds better throughout the Rev range. Personally I prefer the noise of the old n/a over the greater torque provided by the newer engine.
Heart says keep the 991.1 GTS, forget about the depreciation from addition mileage and just keep it well maintained and opc warrantied. Head says move the GTS on and get something at a different stage in the depreciation curve where a sensible buy can minimise the impact on value.
Thoughts appreciated.
I’m having a bit of a dilemma - a new business venture means i’ll be doing more miles and my 2015 991 GTS has just ticked over 25k. Another 15k miles over the next 12 months is going to hammer the value so I’m considering a change. I don’t want a porsche as a garage queen so having an additional car in the fleet for work isnt for me, plus I’ve got too many classics and projects to warrant another car. So options are....
1. Keep the GTS. It is awesome and undoubtedly the best car I’ve ever owned/driven. Ignore the impact on value and keep it long term. Porsche warranty available up to 125k miles and 14 years...
2. Cayman 981 GTS. 718 is a great car but back to back driving in a 981 and 718 immediately show the shortcomings of the 718 soundtrack. A lot cheaper monthly than the 991 GTS.
3. Wildcard - my local opc has an endurance racing edition 991.2 with about 30 miles on it. decent spec including burmester and PDCC but no heated seats which is a bit of an issue , however I understand it’s one of 10 uk cars and was bought with speculation in mind and originally had a significant premium over list. Its not sold and the price has reduced over time. To me it seems to be just an S with some natty badges and horrendous stickers (thankfully removed). Question is whether the rarity is likely to command a future premium and keep residuals stronger than a normal S. 992 release is going to have an impact on both 991.1 & .2
Just for interest - my observations from a back to back drive of the 991.2 3.0 turbo v the normally aspirated GTS (both with spirts exhaust on) - turbo feels noticeably faster and more torque. There’s a flat at low RPM before the turbo kicks in which the n/a engine obviously doesn’t suffer from. The aural difference - turbo is disappointing, exhaust is quieter and the boost whistling is a bit irritating. It’s not as marked a difference as between 981 & 718 but the older car sounds better throughout the Rev range. Personally I prefer the noise of the old n/a over the greater torque provided by the newer engine.
Heart says keep the 991.1 GTS, forget about the depreciation from addition mileage and just keep it well maintained and opc warrantied. Head says move the GTS on and get something at a different stage in the depreciation curve where a sensible buy can minimise the impact on value.
Thoughts appreciated.
Chubbyross said:
I suspect no-one’s ever said on their deathbed “I wish I’d moved my favourite car on and got something at a different stage in the depreciation curve where a sensible buy could have minimised the impact on value.”
Go with your heart.
The above seems very sensible to me.Go with your heart.
I think the cost of swapping to any of those options, plus the depreciation on whatever you choose, would be a treater £amount than keeping your car and going from 25-40k miles.
Not surprised to hear you say it’s the best car you have ever owned, last of the 991 nat asp engine, it would surely need to be something far more special to get you to chop that in.
New 992 launch prices up 5% on the 991.2 and this years 5 months factory closure might actually support used 991 prices for longer than we think. Unsuccessfully bargain hunting myself for a base C2 i have been surprised at the resilience of prices so far.
Not surprised to hear you say it’s the best car you have ever owned, last of the 991 nat asp engine, it would surely need to be something far more special to get you to chop that in.
New 992 launch prices up 5% on the 991.2 and this years 5 months factory closure might actually support used 991 prices for longer than we think. Unsuccessfully bargain hunting myself for a base C2 i have been surprised at the resilience of prices so far.
I’d suggest keeping your current car...the cost to change can’t be ignored and putting any miles on a new car impacts the resale cost as well.
I’m on my 2nd porsche and the previous was a 981 GTS which is a good car but the 991.1GTS I have now feels more rounded and perhaps dare I say more mature and grown up...not for a moment being disparaging of the Cayman.
I wouldn’t want to go back to a cayman now and I suspect you’d sell the cayman after a couple of months of driving it so get hit again on the cost to change.
Steve
I’m on my 2nd porsche and the previous was a 981 GTS which is a good car but the 991.1GTS I have now feels more rounded and perhaps dare I say more mature and grown up...not for a moment being disparaging of the Cayman.
I wouldn’t want to go back to a cayman now and I suspect you’d sell the cayman after a couple of months of driving it so get hit again on the cost to change.
Steve
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