Terminating Wiring
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Lewis's Friend

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1,052 posts

214 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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Quick question...

I have some unused engine bay wiring that will not be required after my engine swap.

To tidy it up, i'd like to cut the unused wiring back. However, I don't just want to chop then and put some tape around them. Is there a 'proper' way of terminating unused wires?

I'm not going to step the loom open and pull the wires back. I just want to neaten the bay up.

Any thoughts appreciated.

tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

228 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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Heat shrink, cut to hang over the end of the wire.
J.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

133 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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As above. While hot, squeeze the heat-shrink flat where it is past the end of the cable and it will bond to itself. Another tip, don't cut the cables in the same place, cut the cables in a staggered fashion, heat-shrink and then tape

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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What you need to avoid is damp (water) wicking up the loom and corroding it from the inside. Either use the "glue lined" heatshrink or use a hot glue gun to seal over the end before you heat shrink over the end. When you heat shrink, leave a bit hanging well over the end (say 10mm at least) heat it till it shrinks, and then bend back the hanging bit over the end to help seal everything up.

Lewis's Friend

Original Poster:

1,052 posts

214 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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Thanks for the feedback chaps. That's just what I was after!

In particular I want to get the wires neat but waterproof as they are routed on a flat panel in the engine bay which can have water runoff.

I will definitely be doing as suggested though... ...after I've got the new engine running. I'm too scared to go cutting wires beforehand!

Whatsmyname

944 posts

101 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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Use dead end / bomb end crimps.

tapkaJohnD

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Monday 24th December 2018
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Wow! Learn something every day! "Bomb end crimps" Never heard of them before!

WMN, why are they so called?
JOhn

Whatsmyname

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101 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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tapkaJohnD said:
Wow! Learn something every day! "Bomb end crimps" Never heard of them before!

WMN, why are they so called?
JOhn



Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

133 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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This engine loom is looking worse by the minute due to the glue and crimps

tapkaJohnD

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228 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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WMN,
Yes, I found that pic too. I asked why, not what do they look like. Clearly you are correct but it's a weird name!
John

Whatsmyname

944 posts

101 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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tapkaJohnD said:
WMN,
Yes, I found that pic too. I asked why, not what do they look like. Clearly you are correct but it's a weird name!
John
The end looks like a bomb fin tail.

thetrickcyclist

239 posts

89 months

Tuesday 25th December 2018
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https://www.hellermanntyton.co.uk/products/heat-sh...


Usual rule of thumb applies, if it looks good, it probably is.

driving

tapkaJohnD

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228 months

Tuesday 25th December 2018
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Whatsmyname said:
The end looks like a bomb fin tail.
Fur nuff!
J.

DrDeAtH

3,678 posts

256 months

Tuesday 25th December 2018
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Just go with the adhesive line heat shrink as mentioned above. Just cut each wire a different length so that all the cut ends are not all at the same point.
Tape the loom up afterwards to make it neat again.

Lewis's Friend

Original Poster:

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214 months

Tuesday 25th December 2018
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DrDeAtH said:
Just go with the adhesive line heat shrink as mentioned above. Just cut each wire a different length so that all the cut ends are not all at the same point.
Tape the loom up afterwards to make it neat again.
I think that's what I'll be doing. I like the look of the heat shrink caps, but they seem a bit pricey and don't seem to go down to little wire sizes (2mm etc). Whereas a £1 of heat shrink and some good tape should make it nice and neat.

cmsapms

708 posts

268 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Lewis's Friend said:
I think that's what I'll be doing. I like the look of the heat shrink caps, but they seem a bit pricey and don't seem to go down to little wire sizes (2mm etc). Whereas a £1 of heat shrink and some good tape should make it nice and neat.
Larger diameter heat shrink shrunk over multiple wires can look neater than taping.

Steve_D

13,801 posts

282 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I always fold the last 2-3mm of the wire back on itself then heatshrink. The small lump ensures the shrink can't come off.
If you are going to tape the loom make sure you use the correct loom tape not normal electricians self adhesive tape.

Steve

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

133 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Steve_D said:
I always fold the last 2-3mm of the wire back on itself then heatshrink. The small lump ensures the shrink can't come off.
If you are going to tape the loom make sure you use the correct loom tape not normal electricians self adhesive tape.

Steve
Many loom tapes are of the adhesive type, Nitto adhesive loom tape makes a very good job
Although others swear by non adhesive loom tape they are not doing themselves any favours, non adhesive tape has a habit of undoing itself when its taped down or heat-shrunk end fails, there is also a big problem of tape loosening that arises when a loom needs to be cut open for fault finding or modifying
The best looms have proven to be adhesive taped looms even though the adhesive does tend to flow in hot areas of the engine bay

Obviously this is a matter of personal choice but.....

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

133 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Why do we often overlook the obvious? I've used this often yet it didn't even enter my mind when posting here

This is the dogs bks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-amalgamating_ta...

stevieturbo

17,969 posts

271 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Not always great for hot environments though.

There are plenty of sleevings available. The expandable braided type is very good for looms, but takes a little planning to get it all right, with glued heat shrink to secure it in place at any ends/junctions.

Tape is convenient though and fine for most. Lots of tape these days is very poor quality though.