Considering a cayenne turbo, not a lot of info...
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I have got to the stage where I'm now talking myself into a cayenne turbo 
im torn between a diesel which is fine for 90% of the time, obviously cheaper running costs and then the outright more brutal performance of a turbo. I am also slightly concerned buying a diesel car now, i am seeing a lot of i wouldn't buy diesel type comments so in 3 or 4 years i can imagine it will only be worse.
strangely there isn't a lot of info out there on general running costs and issues, i am talking 2011 onwards model and have seen a very nice 2013 with 50k on it.
It appears the fuel economy is not too bad, i am sure i read a couple of comments on these forums about mid 20's when driven normally which is fine, servicing seems to be the same as a normal petrol v8, intervals are quite big.
What does worry me though is fixing the thing if and when it breaks, are there known issues? what should i look for? This has to be one of the only cars where i cant find a lot out about them. there's a lot of high milers for sale which is a good sign.
im torn between a diesel which is fine for 90% of the time, obviously cheaper running costs and then the outright more brutal performance of a turbo. I am also slightly concerned buying a diesel car now, i am seeing a lot of i wouldn't buy diesel type comments so in 3 or 4 years i can imagine it will only be worse.
strangely there isn't a lot of info out there on general running costs and issues, i am talking 2011 onwards model and have seen a very nice 2013 with 50k on it.
It appears the fuel economy is not too bad, i am sure i read a couple of comments on these forums about mid 20's when driven normally which is fine, servicing seems to be the same as a normal petrol v8, intervals are quite big.
What does worry me though is fixing the thing if and when it breaks, are there known issues? what should i look for? This has to be one of the only cars where i cant find a lot out about them. there's a lot of high milers for sale which is a good sign.
I'm not convinced you'd see many "mid 20's" trips out of the 4.8 petrol turbo Cayenne. I have just switched from a v6d to a v8d and done 1200 miles so far @ 27.2mpg average. Yes, I can get low-mid 30's quite easily.. but I'd have to be driving very very lightly. Realistically 27-28 is what I will get in my v8d. I'd imagine my driving would relate to high-teens to low-twenties in a Cayenne turbo - and that isn't driving hard, just average I'd say.
As for diesel - I think there will be a market for big-engined diesels for a good few years yet. Not all of us can afford to feed the petrol-engined-equivalent models, and there is no proper alternative yet. Small-engined diesels - yes, millions of them were produced, and there are now some efficient small engined petrol cars. Big diesels - yes. Small - no.
As for diesel - I think there will be a market for big-engined diesels for a good few years yet. Not all of us can afford to feed the petrol-engined-equivalent models, and there is no proper alternative yet. Small-engined diesels - yes, millions of them were produced, and there are now some efficient small engined petrol cars. Big diesels - yes. Small - no.
It was this post which was talking about economy
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Its almost a no win situation
smaller diesel engine: i am sure would be fine for almost 100% of use. Just a bit annoying to not have that poke for when you want it, that and the car would see a fair amount of short journeys, not great for the dpf. dpf issues aside probably the most sensible buy, they appear reliable, fairly cheap to run and a very nice place to sit.
bigger v8 diesel: power looks astonishing for what it is! again dpf issues a concern?
petrol v8 or gts: i have read theres not much point, might as well get the turbo, fuel economy being terrible seems a given. doesn't really look any cheaper to run than a turbo.
turbo: brutal power, its going to sound good, possibly a better spec by default, appears to have better economy? biggest worry by far is something breaking, a 4.8 twin turbo isn't going to be cheap to repair. more tyre and brake wear by default too
i haven't even been in one, however a mate had a gl63 which i would imagine would feel similar in terms of power. The way it went up the road was nothing short of hysterical and its made me want a 2 ton beast with 500hp
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Its almost a no win situation
smaller diesel engine: i am sure would be fine for almost 100% of use. Just a bit annoying to not have that poke for when you want it, that and the car would see a fair amount of short journeys, not great for the dpf. dpf issues aside probably the most sensible buy, they appear reliable, fairly cheap to run and a very nice place to sit.
bigger v8 diesel: power looks astonishing for what it is! again dpf issues a concern?
petrol v8 or gts: i have read theres not much point, might as well get the turbo, fuel economy being terrible seems a given. doesn't really look any cheaper to run than a turbo.
turbo: brutal power, its going to sound good, possibly a better spec by default, appears to have better economy? biggest worry by far is something breaking, a 4.8 twin turbo isn't going to be cheap to repair. more tyre and brake wear by default too
i haven't even been in one, however a mate had a gl63 which i would imagine would feel similar in terms of power. The way it went up the road was nothing short of hysterical and its made me want a 2 ton beast with 500hp
Most of the time you’ll appreciate 27-34 mpg, very little of your time behind the wheel will you need the more brutal performance of a turbo.
Had a 4.8S which I loved to bits but a regular 17 mpg, 20 on a run takes some stomaching.
I’m not in a V8SD now and I havent had to use all the accelerator travel yet!
DW
Had a 4.8S which I loved to bits but a regular 17 mpg, 20 on a run takes some stomaching.
I’m not in a V8SD now and I havent had to use all the accelerator travel yet!
DW
Well as an update we've gone for a v8 diesel facelift which i am now actually very excited about 
Having watched numerous reviews and read many a thread i dont really see a bad word about them and the deal from porsche was imo too good to refuse! Of course its on finance but its working out cheaper than a merc glc 350d over the same term and miles, i know i know its not new but the low miles and warranty on this one makes up for that, plus its a significantly nicer car.
Its got 90% of the spec i wanted ( i really wanted the 18 way seats, but there are zero for sale from porsche with them in budget) but the rest is specced well.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
couple of sleepless nights until collection now
This was meant to be/ is for my wife to use, i can seriously see me making excuses to use it now
Having watched numerous reviews and read many a thread i dont really see a bad word about them and the deal from porsche was imo too good to refuse! Of course its on finance but its working out cheaper than a merc glc 350d over the same term and miles, i know i know its not new but the low miles and warranty on this one makes up for that, plus its a significantly nicer car.
Its got 90% of the spec i wanted ( i really wanted the 18 way seats, but there are zero for sale from porsche with them in budget) but the rest is specced well.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
couple of sleepless nights until collection now
This was meant to be/ is for my wife to use, i can seriously see me making excuses to use it now
m3jappa said:
Well as an update we've gone for a v8 diesel facelift which i am now actually very excited about
Having watched numerous reviews and read many a thread i dont really see a bad word about them and the deal from porsche was imo too good to refuse! Of course its on finance but its working out cheaper than a merc glc 350d over the same term and miles, i know i know its not new but the low miles and warranty on this one makes up for that, plus its a significantly nicer car.
Its got 90% of the spec i wanted ( i really wanted the 18 way seats, but there are zero for sale from porsche with them in budget) but the rest is specced well.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
couple of sleepless nights until collection now
This was meant to be/ is for my wife to use, i can seriously see me making excuses to use it now
Loving mine, pic was for a relaxed drive but similar length spirited journey still produced over 33mpg. Having watched numerous reviews and read many a thread i dont really see a bad word about them and the deal from porsche was imo too good to refuse! Of course its on finance but its working out cheaper than a merc glc 350d over the same term and miles, i know i know its not new but the low miles and warranty on this one makes up for that, plus its a significantly nicer car.
Its got 90% of the spec i wanted ( i really wanted the 18 way seats, but there are zero for sale from porsche with them in budget) but the rest is specced well.
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
couple of sleepless nights until collection now
This was meant to be/ is for my wife to use, i can seriously see me making excuses to use it now
Picked it up today and wow what a car, certainly the best ive ever had! The engine is incredible and really doesn't sound or behave like a diesel! The way it gathers speed is shocking tbh and i really need to watch that!
Had a lovely experience with porsche bristol, some amazing cars in there.
I still cant get over the engine
Had a lovely experience with porsche bristol, some amazing cars in there.
I still cant get over the engine
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