Finance Owing on a Car I Don't Have
Finance Owing on a Car I Don't Have
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Megarage

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2 posts

94 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Wrong area I appreciate, I'm new and thought this was the best site to ask on as it's motor related. I couldn't wait the 14 days before posting in the legal section as I don't have 14 days!

I had an Audi RS6 that I bought on finance from a main dealer, the car was my pride and joy but I wasn't using it that much. A close friend was interested in the car, so we agreed that if he paid me the monthly finance, he could use the car (I trusted him).

All was fine and dandy until October when the car was due to be either refinanced, given back or traded in with the dealer. My friend wanted the car, so I passed him along to the dealer to settle the outstanding balance (£20k).

It turns out he didn't settle...and then I have debt collectors chasing me for the car/money! I've spoken to him a number of times and I keep being assured it will be paid but as of today, it's still not. I've been given 30 days in which to resolve it, my friend is even involved with the debt collectors/solicitors and talking to them to sort it out but I don't have the car to return it (which is what I'd have done as it's too expensive) and it appears my friend has sold the car on!

So what can I do in this rather unpleasant scenario? Assuming my 'friend' isn't going to pay?

zarjaz1991

6,827 posts

153 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Megarage said:
Wrong area I appreciate, I'm new and thought this was the best site to ask on as it's motor related. I couldn't wait the 14 days before posting in the legal section as I don't have 14 days!

I had an Audi RS6 that I bought on finance from a main dealer, the car was my pride and joy but I wasn't using it that much. A close friend was interested in the car, so we agreed that if he paid me the monthly finance, he could use the car (I trusted him).

All was fine and dandy until October when the car was due to be either refinanced, given back or traded in with the dealer. My friend wanted the car, so I passed him along to the dealer to settle the outstanding balance (£20k).

It turns out he didn't settle...and then I have debt collectors chasing me for the car/money! I've spoken to him a number of times and I keep being assured it will be paid but as of today, it's still not. I've been given 30 days in which to resolve it, my friend is even involved with the debt collectors/solicitors and talking to them to sort it out but I don't have the car to return it (which is what I'd have done as it's too expensive) and it appears my friend has sold the car on!

So what can I do in this rather unpleasant scenario? Assuming my 'friend' isn't going to pay?
This can't be for real, I'm sorry. If it is then your friend has stolen the car and the police need to be involved.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

102 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Megarage said:
Wrong area I appreciate, I'm new and thought this was the best site to ask on as it's motor related. I couldn't wait the 14 days before posting in the legal section as I don't have 14 days!

I had an Audi RS6 that I bought on finance from a main dealer, the car was my pride and joy but I wasn't using it that much. A close friend was interested in the car, so we agreed that if he paid me the monthly finance, he could use the car (I trusted him).

All was fine and dandy until October when the car was due to be either refinanced, given back or traded in with the dealer. My friend wanted the car, so I passed him along to the dealer to settle the outstanding balance (£20k).

It turns out he didn't settle...and then I have debt collectors chasing me for the car/money! I've spoken to him a number of times and I keep being assured it will be paid but as of today, it's still not. I've been given 30 days in which to resolve it, my friend is even involved with the debt collectors/solicitors and talking to them to sort it out but I don't have the car to return it (which is what I'd have done as it's too expensive) and it appears my friend has sold the car on!

So what can I do in this rather unpleasant scenario? Assuming my 'friend' isn't going to pay?
You're knackered. Harsh as it is you've only got yourself to blame for trusting the close friend. You can't transfer finance to another person, you're responsible for the repayments until the debt is settled so the dispute is solely between you and your close friend. If he won't pay that's not the finance company's problem - it's yours. If you can't settle the debt then they'll repo the car and take you to court for the outstanding amount. If you don't pay it then the bailiffs will come for your possessions and put a charging order on your house if you own one, depending on how much finance is outstanding.

NDA

25,627 posts

255 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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As Lemming has outlined above. You're screwed. Sorry.

Your 'friend' owes you a car - what is his story??

interstellar

5,073 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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The police won’t be interested. It’s a civil debt matter not a criminal matter.

He didn’t steal the car you gave it to him.

If the finance is still on it though and the new owner didn’t check when the bought it from your so called “pal” then they will lose here too as the finance company once they know who has it will repossess it from them.

Wilmslowboy

4,766 posts

236 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I'd suggest your best course of action is, to settle the finance - £20k and then pursue your "friend" for the money.

Sounds like you subleased your (the finance company's) car, at best this is not permitted under the terms of the agreement you signed, at worse it is fraud.

This could get very nasty for you (with long-term poor credit repercussions and everything that comes with that), by paying off the finance, you avoid being pursued by the finance company, or even the new owner if the car is repossessed from them.

The alternative is that you get the car back from the new owner, had it back finance co, and let the new owner sort it out with your friend (needless to say snatching the car back could be a further recipe for a whole load of grief).



interstellar

5,073 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Do you still have a key as technically it’s still yours? I think.

Sheepshanks

41,051 posts

149 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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interstellar said:
The police won’t be interested. It’s a civil debt matter not a criminal matter.

He didn’t steal the car you gave it to him.
It wasn't his to give.

ooid

6,733 posts

130 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I wonder how many of these stories around, with super-easy pcp deals and -naive- owners around.. If it's a lot, its really about to go bang!

rich12

3,468 posts

184 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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You gave your mate your car which he sold?
So whoever bought it from him took it without checking for finance and without a V5?

That's proper bullst.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

102 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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rich12 said:
You gave your mate your car which he sold?
So whoever bought it from him took it without checking for finance and without a V5?

That's proper bullst.
Valid point.

How has your mate sold it on without the V5C ? scratchchin

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Lemming Train said:
How has your mate sold it on without the V5C ? scratchchin
Because it is a made up story....

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

102 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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EddieSteadyGo said:
Because it is a made up story....
Perhaps so but let's give the OP the benefit of the doubt and see what they have to say about it before jumping to conclusions.

anonymous-user

84 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Lemming Train said:
EddieSteadyGo said:
Because it is a made up story....
Perhaps so but let's give the OP the benefit of the doubt and see what they have to say about it before jumping to conclusions.
The information to draw the conclusion that it is made up story is all in the original post.

DuraAce

4,272 posts

190 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Megarage said:
A close friend was interested in the car, so we agreed that if he paid me the monthly finance, he could use the car (I trusted him).
You stupid idiot.

If he doesn't pay then YOU will pay.

bristolbaron

5,376 posts

242 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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OP - have you wandered over from Money Saving Expert - they love a ‘money moral dilemma’ like this!

Wishing you all the best for 2019 to you and your parents. When do schools go back?

zarjaz1991

6,827 posts

153 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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I stated it was a made up story three minutes after the original post. I stand by that assertion.

DuraAce

4,272 posts

190 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Big surprise that the OP has vanished already!

Monkeylegend

29,238 posts

261 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Lemming Train said:
Perhaps so but let's give the OP the benefit of the doubt and see what they have to say about it before jumping to conclusions.
roflroflrofl

Like you haven't done on the drone thread hehe

Megarage

Original Poster:

2 posts

94 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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Guys, thanks for the responses...but my lack of reply over the course of a day seems to have resulted in me being accused of making stuff up?

I thought this might be a decent place to ask about this matter but seems I'm mistaken, cheers.