Why will my car not start?
Why will my car not start?
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Car; 2006 LR Freelander TD4

Car refuses to start, battery is new, I have removed the starter motor and replaced the worn contacts (common issue) and still nothing.

I have tried to jump start it in case the battery was flat and left the battery on charge.

Key in, wait, turn and ‘click’, that’s all.

I cannot think what it could be!!

Earthing? Immobiliser?

Momentofmadness

2,371 posts

272 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Is the starter motor spinning? May not be getting power despite the solonoid click? Check connections for corrosion.

Solenoid may also be faulty.

Does it bump start?


Cold

16,742 posts

121 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Manual or automatic?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Not sure if it is spinning, I just hear a click, does sound like it is spinning when looking at it under the bonnet.

Haven’t tried to bump it, only the the run of the drive and not sure it’s enough.

Maybe I need to check the solenoid?

I cleaned up the connections when I removed / replaced (not sure about the earth though).

It’s a manual.

Odd because it did this about 3 months ago, intermittent then it just cured itself for 2/3 months and now, totally dead.


Collectingbrass

3,013 posts

226 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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How's the Earth lead from starter to chassis?

Have you cleared all the codes from the ECU etc?

What voltage is the battery showing when you try & start the car?

Turbotechnic

675 posts

107 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Sounds like a sticking solenoid. I had an old 5 series that used to do this, I would have to tap the starter motor with a piece wood in order for it to engage. I took the starter motor off and cleaned up the solenoid with wd40 which sorted it out.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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Not why I put I need to check the solenoid.

I took the starter motor off and replaced the solenoid contacts as they were worn.

Like the below.

Unless I have rebuilt it or reinstalled it incorrectly, but it wasn’t difficult ...


magpie215

5,045 posts

220 months

Saturday 5th January 2019
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The motor brushes might be worn out

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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It’s not even turning, just ‘click’, will try a new starter motor I think.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

140 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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Before getting hold of another starter try supplying the main motor terminal to see if it turns at full speed

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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It doesn’t, the solenoid ‘fires’ and that’s all.

By new I mean I will take it off and give it to a man in a workshop to look at and tell me if it is dead or not.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

140 months

Sunday 6th January 2019
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I meant connect a battery positive to the main motor terminal on the solenoid to check the motor, don't operate the solenoid

GliderRider

2,936 posts

112 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Sounds like the starter motor brushes to me. Diesels take a fair bit of current to turn over.

Under £15 on eBay for a new starter motor brush assembly, if its a Bosch starter in the TD4.

InitialDave

15,172 posts

150 months

Tuesday 8th January 2019
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Penelope Stopit said:
I meant connect a battery positive to the main motor terminal on the solenoid to check the motor, don't operate the solenoid
Yes, this is a really good diagnostic tip that I've been using myself for years when faced with a dicky starter.

I use a jump lead from motor to battery, you can also use one of them to give a direct earth to the battery in case there's an issue there.

One thing that is unlikely, but as it's a 4x4 - have you taken it through any deep mud? It can get in the motor and bake itself solid with the engine heat, but just needs cleaning out to work again. I assume you'd have found that when working on it already, but it's one I've done a couple of times with 4x4s.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Just to close this out ...

Replaced the starter and it fired up first time (I bought a new one), might replace the bushes in the old one and keep it spare, first time to remove took maybe 45minutes as I couldn't access the last bolt easily, second time took 5 mins to remove and 10 mins to reinstall, first "proper" job working on my own car and it was quite easy smile

magpie215

5,045 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Lord.Vader said:
Just to close this out ...

Replaced the starter and it fired up first time (I bought a new one), might replace the bushes in the old one and keep it spare, first time to remove took maybe 45minutes as I couldn't access the last bolt easily, second time took 5 mins to remove and 10 mins to reinstall, first "proper" job working on my own car and it was quite easy smile
Result :-)

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

85 months

Wednesday 9th January 2019
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Thanks for all your help smile