FPN arrives while on holiday
FPN arrives while on holiday
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softtop

Original Poster:

3,172 posts

277 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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Tried google. Must try harder.

If you were ‘flashed’ on day 1 then went away for three weeks, you arrive home to a note saying you’ve missed the speed awareness course response time, court it is.

Is there a way to produce ‘out of country ‘ proof and still get the course? Thanks.

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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What 'note' ?

A course couldn't be offered until the identity of the driver was known.

The identity of the driver is normally confirmed by a postal s.172 declaration.

A s.172 request has a statutory response time of up to 28 days.

If the intended recipient was only away for 3 weeks, the s.172 request could easily be completed and returned within time..

Stefluc

274 posts

239 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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From the time and date of offence they have 14 days to notify registered keeper to identify who the driver was at the time of offence .
The registered keeper then has 28 days to reply to the 172 notice then time is curated to by the registered keepers response.
So,I find it hard that you have been on holiday to come back to a letter stating that you have missed the deadline for a course .

softtop

Original Poster:

3,172 posts

277 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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Thanks for that. Let me review the paperwork tomorrow as there is a missing part of the puzzle appreciate the guidance.

softtop

Original Poster:

3,172 posts

277 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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time frame of events

Letter received saying who is the speeding driver- responded to

Letter arrives offering the points or a course, already on holiday for a few weeks.

The ten days to choose an option passes and the only option is court.

The question is, how to get the Speed Awareness Course back on the table?

Thanks



Paul Dishman

5,409 posts

267 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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I'd phone the issuing office and explain the situation, saying that I'll take the course or the FPN not wanting to waste the court's time. That's got to be worth a try

softtop

Original Poster:

3,172 posts

277 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Paul Dishman said:
I'd phone the issuing office and explain the situation, saying that I'll take the course or the FPN not wanting to waste the court's time. That's got to be worth a try
Will do, just wanted to see if there is a way before taking the one shot.

sim16v

2,177 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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With the letter giving the options, did it give a website where the course could be booked?

If it did, just try booking the course.

I know someone who did that after the deadline had passed 🤔

Sheepshanks

41,051 posts

149 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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Paul Dishman said:
I'd phone the issuing office and explain the situation, saying that I'll take the course or the FPN not wanting to waste the court's time. That's got to be worth a try
A collegue did that when his paperwork on a leased car got lost somewhere is the system and the first he knew was getting a Summons.

He 'phoned them up and they were very keen to get him on the course instead.

sim16v

2,177 posts

231 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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More profitable to get people on the course...

BrabusMog

21,785 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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The deadlines aren't strictly enforced, I was 6 weeks late due to being out the country for work and a quick call to the issuing force followed by me sending the letter recorded delivery was all that was required.

Sheepshanks

41,051 posts

149 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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sim16v said:
More profitable to get people on the course...
It seemed like a complete scam - he got caught at 46 on the M42 when the gantry was set to 40 in light traffic early in the morning. Most of the people on the course had been caught the same way.

softtop

Original Poster:

3,172 posts

277 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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thanks for all of the comments, cannot book onto the course as the reference number stops you. Call to the contact centre was a no, no.

@Brabusmog, who did you write to?

BrabusMog

21,785 posts

216 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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softtop said:
thanks for all of the comments, cannot book onto the course as the reference number stops you. Call to the contact centre was a no, no.

@Brabusmog, who did you write to?
Thames Valley Police. I'm surprised you've been told no but perhaps I was lucky.