help! ive got the car swap itch
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Well fellow owners I am in a bit of a quandary, I don't know if anyone else feels the same but the new aston line up doesn't suit me, although I want to stay with the brand nothing they have at the moment floats my boat to change in my used car price bracket. I moved away from the db9 a few years ago for a fling with an Italian but came back and really this is where I want to be!
I love my 2014 v12vs but I have the itch to change to something else
Here's my problem with the second hand aston market
I would have gone for a new vantage but I cannot live with having to park it up against a wall all the time so I don't see the front end when I get out
The vanquish gen 2 is an amazing and beautiful car but a little bit too big, those of you who know me know I am a young athletic man and don't want the bigger car !!!! I came in a round about way from the bigger 9 to the vantage and it was the best move I made in my opinion.
I would love a gen1 vanquish but don't have the balls to take one on with the servicing and problems that rear up
The gen 2 dbs is out of my price range but wow what a car
The gen 1 dbs is again a beautiful car but big
The db11 is nice, but that's the problem I want wow, and still has a lot of depreciation to go in my opinion
A newer old shape vantage,......
Anyone else having the same problem, Oh how I wish I could have liked the new vantage
I feel like the older models were built for me now the new generation have gone in a different direction
help!
I love my 2014 v12vs but I have the itch to change to something else
Here's my problem with the second hand aston market
I would have gone for a new vantage but I cannot live with having to park it up against a wall all the time so I don't see the front end when I get out
The vanquish gen 2 is an amazing and beautiful car but a little bit too big, those of you who know me know I am a young athletic man and don't want the bigger car !!!! I came in a round about way from the bigger 9 to the vantage and it was the best move I made in my opinion.
I would love a gen1 vanquish but don't have the balls to take one on with the servicing and problems that rear up
The gen 2 dbs is out of my price range but wow what a car
The gen 1 dbs is again a beautiful car but big
The db11 is nice, but that's the problem I want wow, and still has a lot of depreciation to go in my opinion
A newer old shape vantage,......
Anyone else having the same problem, Oh how I wish I could have liked the new vantage
I feel like the older models were built for me now the new generation have gone in a different direction
help!
I think you have answered your own question, there is nothing wrong with the status quo, it fits your requirements and desire perfectly.
I have been having similar thoughts.. I am actually quite pleased I dont like the new astons because its saving me a small fortune. I am in a 9.2 and would only consider a move to a v12vs should the right car come along.
As you rightly say it does leave you nowhere to go with aston but perhaps just upgrading to a new v12vs or perhaps doing some tinkering with your existing beast?
I have been having similar thoughts.. I am actually quite pleased I dont like the new astons because its saving me a small fortune. I am in a 9.2 and would only consider a move to a v12vs should the right car come along.
As you rightly say it does leave you nowhere to go with aston but perhaps just upgrading to a new v12vs or perhaps doing some tinkering with your existing beast?
I'm in a similar situation. I really like the styling of the Vanquish but much prefer the size of the Vantage. Really like the front-end treatment of the new DBS but again too large (essentially a DB11). Was hoping Aston would see the light and do a similar treatment on a new Vantage S Ultimate or something!
Still waiting for Aston to iron out any initial problems with the new Vantage. But other cars are catching my eye for similar money like a used Huracan. V10, NA engine, DCT with good reliability etc. But not sure it's my style. New EVO looks to be a praiseworthy facelift though - well done to Lambo.
Want a reasonable amount of GT-style comfort.
Another option is the new facelifted AMG GT but it did not inspire me. Not sure if 2019 will bring anything new from any brand. Was hoping for Bentley to introduce a two-seater Speed 6.
New Vantage as a brand new car still overall on top.
Still waiting for Aston to iron out any initial problems with the new Vantage. But other cars are catching my eye for similar money like a used Huracan. V10, NA engine, DCT with good reliability etc. But not sure it's my style. New EVO looks to be a praiseworthy facelift though - well done to Lambo.
Want a reasonable amount of GT-style comfort.
Another option is the new facelifted AMG GT but it did not inspire me. Not sure if 2019 will bring anything new from any brand. Was hoping for Bentley to introduce a two-seater Speed 6.
New Vantage as a brand new car still overall on top.
Mike, have you thought about going topless?
Why hide that young, athletic body and...er....rugged good looks inside a coupe?
In all seriousness, top-down driving opens a whole new aspect of sights, sounds and smells that you don't get in a hard-top. You also get a greater sensation of speed with the roof down, so don't find yourself chasing the red line / deep in license loosing territory quite so frequently.
If you can bear to go back to a manual, I would say a later manual V12VSR would feel like a very different proposition to your current ASM V12VS.
Chichester (which I know is a long way from you) have a lovely Skyfall one for sale.
Or you could back to the 6sp original with one of the 101 V12VRs? There's a Quantum over Lords red on the AML approved site...
Finally, don't underestimate the 'hustle-ability' of a Vanq2. Nick was out in his VSV with a load of us in Vantages back in the autumn, and had no issues keeping up on the tight and twisty stuff. The gearbox is excellent and the noise is brutal.
Happy hunting! First world problems and all that
Why hide that young, athletic body and...er....rugged good looks inside a coupe?
In all seriousness, top-down driving opens a whole new aspect of sights, sounds and smells that you don't get in a hard-top. You also get a greater sensation of speed with the roof down, so don't find yourself chasing the red line / deep in license loosing territory quite so frequently.
If you can bear to go back to a manual, I would say a later manual V12VSR would feel like a very different proposition to your current ASM V12VS.
Chichester (which I know is a long way from you) have a lovely Skyfall one for sale.
Or you could back to the 6sp original with one of the 101 V12VRs? There's a Quantum over Lords red on the AML approved site...
Finally, don't underestimate the 'hustle-ability' of a Vanq2. Nick was out in his VSV with a load of us in Vantages back in the autumn, and had no issues keeping up on the tight and twisty stuff. The gearbox is excellent and the noise is brutal.
Happy hunting! First world problems and all that
If Aston built something smaller, pretty and affordable based on a Cayman/Boxster size platform they’d clean up. Wouldn't need to be 500+ hp either so a sweet 6cyl engine would do.
I’ll start the queue for one.
It may bite into the sales of the other larger stuff they sell though!!!
DW
I’ll start the queue for one.
It may bite into the sales of the other larger stuff they sell though!!!
DW
Thanks guys as we say first world problems ! I am glad you can feel my pain lol
Topless might be the way to go ! Just might need more sun cream for the bald patch !
I am too lazy to do the manual thing !
Nick’s vanq looks amazing but he is a lot older than me so it suits him lol 😂
As said above a smaller Aston to go along side the keeper would be a marketing genius
The more I think about it I don’t think I could part with the v12vs so it might be another toy to go with it !
Cheers guys
Topless might be the way to go ! Just might need more sun cream for the bald patch !
I am too lazy to do the manual thing !
Nick’s vanq looks amazing but he is a lot older than me so it suits him lol 😂
As said above a smaller Aston to go along side the keeper would be a marketing genius
The more I think about it I don’t think I could part with the v12vs so it might be another toy to go with it !
Cheers guys
AdamV12AMR said:
Finally, don't underestimate the 'hustle-ability' of a Vanq2. Nick was out in his VSV with a load of us in Vantages back in the autumn, and had no issues keeping up on the tight and twisty stuff. The gearbox is excellent and the noise is brutal.
B4rnst4ble said:
Nick’s Vanq looks amazing but he is a lot older than me so it suits him lol ??
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How to solve the itch? Actually get some figures to change. My Gen 1 DBS was in for service this week at main dealer who had just sold one (with higher miles than mine) that they had up at £96k. Saw they had a nice, subtle, DB11 up at £110k, so I thought I'd ask how much to swap: after all, only £14k between the asking prices. Answer? £36k.
May I suggest you look at a Virage.
Amazing car that is so close to a DBS at considerably less money(at present)
I have had two DB9 cars and if you can accept a slightly harsh ride compared to those, you will be amazed just how quick and nimble they are.
My summers are spent driving in Europe’s mountains. I have taken McClaren, GT3 etc.
I have no hesitation in taking the Virage as it is able to keep pace with the assortment of exotics that I share the tours with.
Amazing car that is so close to a DBS at considerably less money(at present)
I have had two DB9 cars and if you can accept a slightly harsh ride compared to those, you will be amazed just how quick and nimble they are.
My summers are spent driving in Europe’s mountains. I have taken McClaren, GT3 etc.
I have no hesitation in taking the Virage as it is able to keep pace with the assortment of exotics that I share the tours with.
nick0137 said:
How to solve the itch? Actually get some figures to change. My Gen 1 DBS was in for service this week at main dealer who had just sold one (with higher miles than mine) that they had up at £96k. Saw they had a nice, subtle, DB11 up at £110k, so I thought I'd ask how much to swap: after all, only £14k between the asking prices. Answer? £36k.
This is exactly where the whole equation doesn’t add up. The „bid price“ by dealer makes it completely uneconomical to trade in cars. Also, when you then try to sell the DB11 later on you get you next big hit. There is an oversupply of >100k cars in the market fuelled by cheap rates and finance deals. As these cars start flooding back into the market residuals are going to take a bath as there is no real market for 100k used cars. Dealer said they had already taken all of their margin out of the DB11 (well, they would say that wouldn't they?) because they had sold it once already, but the purchaser had been declined finance. What?! Who goes into a AM dealership, buys a £110k car, but doesn't have the standing to be approved for finance? Madness. So, you may well be right that if the credit market contracts buyers will disappear. Anyway, I had bought the DBS intending to keep it so that's what I'm doing...
nick0137 said:
Dealer said they had already taken all of their margin out of the DB11 (well, they would say that wouldn't they?) because they had sold it once already, but the purchaser had been declined finance. What?! Who goes into a AM dealership, buys a £110k car, but doesn't have the standing to be approved for finance? Madness. So, you may well be right that if the credit market contracts buyers will disappear. Anyway, I had bought the DBS intending to keep it so that's what I'm doing...
There has been a huge swing against high value consumer credit lending in the last year or so due to the clampdown on irresponsible lenders (ironically its the low value end where the big problems are). I am not surprised that people are getting caught out when 2-3 years ago it was a ‘yes’ and now a ‘no’ when their personal circumstances have either not changed or improved. Not saying that is the case with your db11 enquiry but being declined today is not necessarily a case of having bad credit or being unable to afford something.hornbaek said:
nick0137 said:
How to solve the itch? Actually get some figures to change. My Gen 1 DBS was in for service this week at main dealer who had just sold one (with higher miles than mine) that they had up at £96k. Saw they had a nice, subtle, DB11 up at £110k, so I thought I'd ask how much to swap: after all, only £14k between the asking prices. Answer? £36k.
This is exactly where the whole equation doesn’t add up. The „bid price“ by dealer makes it completely uneconomical to trade in cars. Also, when you then try to sell the DB11 later on you get you next big hit. There is an oversupply of >100k cars in the market fuelled by cheap rates and finance deals. As these cars start flooding back into the market residuals are going to take a bath as there is no real market for 100k used cars. Interesting. It is very rare for trade-in arithmetic to be mentioned on here.
I have always kept my cars for a very long time, but had thought that regular replacement must be an expensive way to enjoy motoring.
My Vantage was purchased when two and a half years old (40% below list), now ten years old. It continues to look almost new, and I am still thrilled with it.
That is my way of subduing the car swap itch
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