I hate my new laptop and windows 10

[colin_p]

My trusty old win7 laptop ceased to function (coffee spill) so I went out and bought a new one.

I'm in no way computer geeky but am able to look at specifications, compare and make reasoned decisions on what to buy. As I'm not computer geeky in any way, a low range machine is all that I need. Job jobbed. AMD A9, 8gb ram, 1 tb hdd, perfect for me.

When-

1, Was it decided to combine the touchpad buttons in the f'ing touchpad, how st is that.

2, Was it decided (Lenovo) to produce a machine without sufficient drivers to allow me to turn off all the stupid touchpad gestures that work when you don't want them to and not work when you do. Pathetic. Previous machines have all had very detailed settings for this but all I've got is touchpad sensitivity. I've spent hours online scouring and searching for the correct and or better drivers and there are none. In the few instances where I've decided to take a punt on some drivers to see what happens, windows 10 won't allow me to take that punt and says that I already the best drivers!

3, Was it decided to have the bios not where the bios should be. I was tinkering with the idea of making a duel boot win7 win10 machine or maybe having a go a linux (but I don't think I have the ability).

4, Was it decided that Windows 10 was a good idea. I really don't like it and spent quite a while turning off all what I consider to be the intrusive stuff but I've probably only scratched the surface with that.


After three days of this, I was so angry and annoyed that I ordered a refurbished Win7 machine (an HP elite book, the same as the one I happily used for work for many years before it was repleaced) which will hopefully be here on Monday. I'll gift the new win10 machine to my son!

No idea what I'm going to do when microsoft cease to support win7 next year?

For context, although not a geek or ever in the geek industry, I've used computers for a long time starting off with Dos and Win 3, Win95, Win 98, Win XP then Win 7 with a few versions of NT thrown in on the work machines here and there, no problems. I even got on quite well with windows 8 for a while! But for some reason I hate windows 10, really hate it.

It seems to be a theme of modern life or more likely that I'm turning into a grumpy old git, but things seem to be getting worse than they once were. Is it just me?

[saaby93]

colin_p said:

It seems to be a theme of modern life or more likely that I'm turning into a grumpy old git, but things seem to be getting worse than they once were. Is it just me?

The best bit about windows 10 is that when it does an 'important' update 'please wait while we waste your time' it cleverly turns back on everything youve turned off

[eeLee]

colin_p said:

No idea what I'm going to do when microsoft cease to support win7 next year?

1) continue using your win7 laptop?
b) change happens.
iii) try an external mouse and keyboard
5) you would have gotten used to it
j) it's not just about win10

[colin_p]

saaby93 said:

hehe:

The best bit about windows 10 is that when it does an 'important' update 'please wait while we waste your time' it cleverly turns back on everything youve turned off

Does it, the swines!

eeLee said:

1) continue using your win7 laptop?
b) change happens.
iii) try an external mouse and keyboard
5) you would have gotten used to it
j) it's not just about win10

1) The coffee swamped dead laptop? Or do you mean the new (old) one I've ordered with good old Win7 on it that'll hopefully be here on Monday?

b) Change does happen but common sense dictates that change should be for the better, not worse than what came before.

iii) External mouse and keyboard? How I am supposed to look at PH whilst watching Star Trek on Netflix? I am quite a large gentleman but even my muscled thighs / lap doesn't have room for those whilst sat on the sofa.

5) No, I'm fairly certain that I'd continue to hate it.

j) No, it really is all about that, well that and the stupid touchpad.

[saaby93]

colin_p said:

common sense dictates that change should be for the better, not worse than what came before.

Have you been using PCs for long?

Cant you take it back and get one with a different touch pad?

[RizzoTheRat]

I have my touchpad set up to be disabled when using a mouse, and find the arm of the sofa works quite well as a mouse pad Touch screen is also fantastic on a laptop as it means you rarely have the use the stupid touchpad.

Not had any problems with Win10 though.

[devnull]

I've used computers for a long time starting off with Dos and Win 3, Win95, Win 98, Win XP then Win 7 with a few versions of NT thrown in on the work machines here and there, no problems. I even got on quite well with windows 8 for a while! But I have no problem with Windows 10 - i just didn't cheap out and buy a st low end laptop

[Sheepshanks]

I'm not a geek either and, for general office work I preferred the 4x3 screen format of my old Thinkpad T61 so I stuck with it, running Windows 7, until it was 10yrs old. With an SSD it went OK, but it was starting to get embarrasing taking it to meetings.

So last year I got a Thinkpad T470 (and, of course, Windows10). I'm honestly annoyed with myself that I stuck with the old system for so long - the new set-up is great.

[saaby93]

this has the stylised touch pad
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8437589
this doesnt
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/7989791

lovely touchpad and buttons
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T450-14...

T470 strong money
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T470-14...

Edited by saaby93 on Friday 25th January 15:02

[colin_p]

devnull said:

i just didn't cheap out and buy a st low end laptop

True.

[colin_p]

saaby93 said:

this has the stylised touch pad
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8437589
this doesnt
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/7989791

lovely touchpad and buttons
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T450-14...

T470 strong money
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T470-14...

Edited by saaby93 on Friday 25th January 15:02

The one in the first link is the one I bought and the one I'm moaning about!

The spec looked good, my previous machine was made by them..... what could posssibly go wrong.

[Sheepshanks]

saaby93 said:

T470 strong money
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T470-14...

That's very similar to mine, except mine is an i5. I paid just under a grand although I found a discount code that helped.

I'd be tempted to buy that at around the current price (£436) but then I might find myself in the same loop as I did with T61's - it was possible to pick up unused ones for years. We had 4 in the family at one time, one is still in daily use.

[saaby93]

looks like the L580 and up have buttons
https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/c/LAPTOPS#typ...

Amazon is better for photos
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=sr_pg_2?fst=as%3Aof...

Edited by saaby93 on Friday 25th January 15:45

[Hilts]

colin_p said:

. I was tinkering with the idea of making a duel boot win7 win10 machine

I wouldn't bother.

They'll end up in a conflict.

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

colin_p said:

It seems to be a theme of modern life or more likely that I'm turning into a grumpy old git, but things seem to be getting worse than they once were. Is it just me?

The best bit about windows 10 is that when it does an 'important' update 'please wait while we waste your time' it cleverly turns back on everything youve turned off

Worse than that is I leave open loads of emails and other stuff I must deal with the next day. Updates happen, restart is done (all automatically) and everything gets closed down ... with my bad memory I don't know what I was supposed to be doing.

[Some Guy]

I find W10 to be an absolute pain in the arse. I fking hate it. Luckily its only on my work lappy. My PC at home still runs W7 and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

[colin_p]

Some Guy said:

I find W10 to be an absolute pain in the arse. I fking hate it. Luckily its only on my work lappy. My PC at home still runs W7 and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

There seem to be three of us who hate it.

[Derek Smith]

eeLee said:

iii) try an external mouse and keyboard
j) it's not just about win10

I've got an external keyboard with a pad. I use a small table to put both on, particularly when watching F1.

I'm similar to a previous poster: I've had windows since 3.1 and upgraded fairly regularly, although missing NT and Vista, Come to that, I miss Win 2000.

I liked XP but went for 7 and then 8. Win 10 pro is the best Windows OS so far. It is bloated, it has too much stuff I don't want, but I like it.

I've a spare laptop that I'm going to put Chrome OS on, just to see, but not 'cause I think it's better, but 'cause I think I'll enjoy doing it.

[mygoldfishbowl]

On another thread I got called a grandad because I had the nerve to suggest I wasn't a fan of android. Well I guess we have the entire retirement home in this thread.

[FourWheelDrift]

MikeStroud said:

saaby93 said:

colin_p said:

It seems to be a theme of modern life or more likely that I'm turning into a grumpy old git, but things seem to be getting worse than they once were. Is it just me?

The best bit about windows 10 is that when it does an 'important' update 'please wait while we waste your time' it cleverly turns back on everything youve turned off

Worse than that is I leave open loads of emails and other stuff I must deal with the next day. Updates happen, restart is done (all automatically) and everything gets closed down ... with my bad memory I don't know what I was supposed to be doing.

Type "update" into the search field on the task bar and select the Check for updates option at the top. Click on "Change Active hours" and set your working hours e.g, start 8am, finish 6pm, it will not perform a restart during those hours and if an update absolutely needs a restart it will tell you it wants to restart so you can finish anything you are doing for as long as it takes before activating the restart yourself by clicking on restart on the notification.