Family videos in the 21st century?
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We have a rapidly growing up 9 month old, and apart from the odd 5-10 second clip on our iphones, we dont have any video of him or him and us at all.
Even if we took longer clips on our iphones, they would never get downloaded and saved.
We used to, as kids have camcorders stuck in our faces at every event and day out, normally for way too long, but we have these memories to keep and look back on.
The next generation wont.
So whats the options?
A £50 amazon special camcorder which records to SD card?
A Sony camcorder?
A £500 DJI osmo?
A go pro?
Then what?
An external dvd writer? We dont even have a dvd player anymore, let alone in 20 years time.
A external harddrive with them all stored on? These seem to corrupt for no good reason!
This is a genuine thread and issue by the way, i want to get something asap so his childhood isn't missed forever.
Even if we took longer clips on our iphones, they would never get downloaded and saved.
We used to, as kids have camcorders stuck in our faces at every event and day out, normally for way too long, but we have these memories to keep and look back on.
The next generation wont.
So whats the options?
A £50 amazon special camcorder which records to SD card?
A Sony camcorder?
A £500 DJI osmo?
A go pro?
Then what?
An external dvd writer? We dont even have a dvd player anymore, let alone in 20 years time.
A external harddrive with them all stored on? These seem to corrupt for no good reason!
This is a genuine thread and issue by the way, i want to get something asap so his childhood isn't missed forever.
Edited by sidekickdmr on Friday 25th January 18:26
I dont really want them on a cloud anywhere for a few reasons, top two being passwords/accounts/technology being forgotten and secondly being relyong on a cooperation to store them!
I know youtube and google are about as big as they get (well, they are the same company now), but look at myspace and photobucket for how these things can go.
I like the idea of having a box somewhere in my house, full of memories
I know youtube and google are about as big as they get (well, they are the same company now), but look at myspace and photobucket for how these things can go.
I like the idea of having a box somewhere in my house, full of memories
sidekickdmr said:
We This is a genuine thread and issue by the way, i want to get something asap so his childhood isn't missed forever.
Videos are difficult, but your problem isn't new. Home videos from 30 years ago in an old shoe box are not playable in most people's homes today.Photos are somewhat easier in that they can be printed. I recently went through 20000 family photos from the last 13 years and printed the best 360 in a photo-book for this very reason.
I would just treat video files like other digital files. Ensure several other people know what you are storing, and where you are storing them. Use open file formats, on simple removable media, and the chances are someone might find them and look at them in the future. This also makes it easy for you to bulk convert/copy them in the future as formats and media go out of fashion.
Be cautious of anything hosted. The legalities of cross-border ownership/access is too immature to have any faith in it yet over many decades.
And don't forget, the more files you have, the less value each has. I wouldn't watch and keep 10000 videos my parents leave after they die. I would watch and keep 50 videos they leave.
Edited by alock on Friday 25th January 18:54
sidekickdmr said:
I dont really want them on a cloud anywhere for a few reasons, top two being passwords/accounts/technology being forgotten and secondly being relyong on a cooperation to store them!
I know youtube and google are about as big as they get (well, they are the same company now), but look at myspace and photobucket for how these things can go.
I like the idea of having a box somewhere in my house, full of memories
You can store them locally as well.I know youtube and google are about as big as they get (well, they are the same company now), but look at myspace and photobucket for how these things can go.
I like the idea of having a box somewhere in my house, full of memories
I love Google photos. What ever I film or photo is backed up and available on all my devices. It's also nice that it sends you reminders of what you were doing one particular day a few years ago.
You are way more likely to loose your photos than Google.
ts on granny 17 01 19”sidekickdmr said:
We used to, as kids have camcorders stuck in our faces at every event and day out, normally for way too long, but we have these memories to keep and look back on.
The next generation wont.
And apart from a few enthusiasts the previous generation didn't either. Technology means that it's far, far easier to take pictures and video these days so stick with your phone, make sure you hold it sideways The next generation wont.
and work on storage.I'll second (third? fourth?) the google thing. Phones take fairly good videos nowadays, they're usually always charged up and ready to go too. As soon as you stop recording, it'll be getting stored up in the cloud. It's also very easy to do right now while you're thinking about what to do! Another alternative might be something like a Sony 4K action cam with the little finger grip and screen
You can get the video off it with the Sony app and back it up to somewhere. It's small, waterproof (with the little lens cover supplied) and has hardware based image stabilisation.
You can get the video off it with the Sony app and back it up to somewhere. It's small, waterproof (with the little lens cover supplied) and has hardware based image stabilisation.
I'd agree with everything above. The quality of cameras on most phones these days is so good that you really don't need anything more for most day to day photo opportunities and they're almost always in your pocket and ready to go.
I've got a big MicroSD card in mine so storage is never an issue, they back up automatically to google and then you can periodically save them to an external HD via your laptop if not directly.
Whilst I like buying a new toy as much as the next guy, if you don't download videos from your phone, why would you bother downloading them from a dedicated camera? Would you even bother carrying a dedicated camera around with you after the novelty has worn off?
I've got a big MicroSD card in mine so storage is never an issue, they back up automatically to google and then you can periodically save them to an external HD via your laptop if not directly.
Whilst I like buying a new toy as much as the next guy, if you don't download videos from your phone, why would you bother downloading them from a dedicated camera? Would you even bother carrying a dedicated camera around with you after the novelty has worn off?
We record a lot of clips with our phones. Added together they are probably a lot more than the old camcoder videos of my youth. I then back these up into the computer, which are then backed up to two external hard drives for resilience along with photos etc.
In reality, we rarely ever watch videos of our childhood, and so clips won't be any different I expext. But for ocassions such as birthdays or holidays I also have a camcorder and a go pro, which are used sparingly depending on the occasion.
I then use Quik software to turn the vids into a little movie clip which lasts about one minute and is quite good to watch. The software doesn't let you do them for longer which is probably a good thing as if you watch back a long home video from the past, they are pretty boring. Lol. You could do the same maybe to compile a bunch of your clips, you might be quite pleased with the results.
If you want to have them handy to watch like the old days of VHS, maybe put them on a single usb stick for that purpose which can be stuck into the TV or computer as the mood takes you.
In reality, we rarely ever watch videos of our childhood, and so clips won't be any different I expext. But for ocassions such as birthdays or holidays I also have a camcorder and a go pro, which are used sparingly depending on the occasion.
I then use Quik software to turn the vids into a little movie clip which lasts about one minute and is quite good to watch. The software doesn't let you do them for longer which is probably a good thing as if you watch back a long home video from the past, they are pretty boring. Lol. You could do the same maybe to compile a bunch of your clips, you might be quite pleased with the results.
If you want to have them handy to watch like the old days of VHS, maybe put them on a single usb stick for that purpose which can be stuck into the TV or computer as the mood takes you.
MG-FIDO said:
I'd agree with everything above. The quality of cameras on most phones these days is so good that you really don't need anything more for most day to day photo opportunities and they're almost always in your pocket and ready to go.
I've got a big MicroSD card in mine so storage is never an issue, they back up automatically to google and then you can periodically save them to an external HD via your laptop if not directly.
Whilst I like buying a new toy as much as the next guy, if you don't download videos from your phone, why would you bother downloading them from a dedicated camera? Would you even bother carrying a dedicated camera around with you after the novelty has worn off?
The best camera in the world is the one you have with you. I've got a big MicroSD card in mine so storage is never an issue, they back up automatically to google and then you can periodically save them to an external HD via your laptop if not directly.
Whilst I like buying a new toy as much as the next guy, if you don't download videos from your phone, why would you bother downloading them from a dedicated camera? Would you even bother carrying a dedicated camera around with you after the novelty has worn off?
Phones are so good these days that unless it's a hobby, there really isn't any justification for a separate camera.
Couple that with automatic backing up and unlimited space on Google it's unbelievably convenient.
We also use Chromecast around the house so I can cast photos or home movies on any TV.
I work as a camera op, playing with all sorts of £££ equipment in my day job.
What do I film most things with in my spare time? My iPhone 7! It’s, small, handy, and the video is surprisingly good. I also film In portrait mode most of the time as that’s how friends & family will be watching it back when it’s shared over social media.
For my son’s Birthdays, Christmas etc I pull out my Fuji mirrorless camera and edit a video on my laptop. I still edit it in square format because no one is going to be watching it on their TV
What do I film most things with in my spare time? My iPhone 7! It’s, small, handy, and the video is surprisingly good. I also film In portrait mode most of the time as that’s how friends & family will be watching it back when it’s shared over social media.
For my son’s Birthdays, Christmas etc I pull out my Fuji mirrorless camera and edit a video on my laptop. I still edit it in square format because no one is going to be watching it on their TV
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