TU-22M Crash landing, Murmansk?

[snake_oil]

I won't post the footage as it's pretty horrific but has anyone seen it?

Seemed to approach relatively normally however it must have been a bit steep. Breaks it's back on touchdown and the whole front section including cockpit simply detaches and folds under.

The rear section appears to briefly climb before flopping into the cockpit in a massive fireball.

Never seen an aircraft simply snap like that in those circumstances.

[toastyhamster]

Already posted in the youtube thread.

[snake_oil]

Looking for some forum specific high brow discussion

[Eric Mc]

Massively high rate of descent.

Hard landings can snap a fuselage -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COsT6DqkTDc

[aeropilot]

snake_oil said:

I won't post the footage as it's pretty horrific but has anyone seen it?

Seemed to approach relatively normally however it must have been a bit steep.

Didn't look normal at all, as said ROD way in excess of what you expect to see, and in the horrid conditions, makes you wonder if some of the instruments were non-functioning or reading in error, as by time he was visual with the runway, it was way too late.
Looked like the failure point was at a construction joint in the fuselage?

It's astonishingly looking at the clip that one crew member survived that..!!

[FourWheelDrift]

Icing on the wings maybe?

[Eric Mc]

You would think that, of all countries, Russia would be familiar with how to deal with ice. If ice was an issue, it might have been more to do with iced up instrument sensors.

[Dr Jekyll]

If that's a crash landing I'd hate to see a crash.

[Tony1963]

Eric Mc said:

You would think that, of all countries, Russia would be familiar with how to deal with ice. If ice was an issue, it might have been more to do with iced up instrument sensors.

Things go wrong, for many reasons.

[Eric Mc]

Tony1963 said:

Eric Mc said:

You would think that, of all countries, Russia would be familiar with how to deal with ice. If ice was an issue, it might have been more to do with iced up instrument sensors.

Things go wrong, for many reasons.

Profound comment - but true.

[BrettMRC]

Never seen an impact quite like that before - miracle anyone was alive.

Seems like the pilot must have gone for full power the way the aft section took off post impact though?

[Gary29]

She came in REALLY fast didn't she?

[Tired]

BrettMRC said:

Never seen an impact quite like that before - miracle anyone was alive.

Seems like the pilot must have gone for full power the way the aft section took off post impact though?

The pilot may well have attempted a go-around, and left it too late, but remember, when it hit the ground and failed structurally, 2 things happened.

The part to which the engines were still attached pitched upwards, and it got a bit lighter.

[T-bagger]

Very difficult to tell for sure, but the wings appear to be in the swept position on final approach? Can it be that the VG wing has frozen up? Meaning that the pilot had no choice but to come in very fast to avoid stalling.
Terrible conditions to fly in and a terrible accident, RIP to the crew.

[Tony1963]

T-bagger said:

Very difficult to tell for sure, but the wings appear to be in the swept position on final approach? Can it be that the VG wing has frozen up? Meaning that the pilot had no choice but to come in very fast to avoid stalling.
Terrible conditions to fly in and a terrible accident, RIP to the crew.

I doubt very much that the wings would freeze in position as, if anything like Tornado, there’ll be very powerful screw jacks operating them and they stop for nothing. However, if the jacks themselves fail for some reason, then you’re looking at the double whammy of swept wings and no high-lift devices... that equals a huge increase in stall speed. Not nice at all, especially in extreme weather.

[essayer]

The right wing breaks off when the fuselage fractures, you can see the light hit the floor

[Tony1963]

What happens after the initial impact, especially on this fuzzy video, is almost if no consequence.

[BrettMRC]

If you run it in slow motion you can see the wings are extended.