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I have a GMT shaped hole in my life which is starting to dominate both waking and sleeping moments...
My preferences are for:
Automatic movement
Separate GMT / UTC hand (as opposed to IWC style 2nd time zone indicator)
24 hr movable bezel as well as / instead of fixed 24 hr markings
Preferably internal bezel as opposed to diver style external bezel
Something that doesn't look too much like an Explorer me-too
Around 40mm case size
Tool watch look / feel as opposed to more dressy look
As unfussy as dial as possible
Preferably no more than £1000
Happy to buy used to get what I'm looking for
I've had a lot of fun searching but have found it alot harder than expected to find any options - the closest so far (which misses a lot of the preferences above) is the Bell & Ross BR V2 93 (pic below) but it's more expensive than I was looking to pay and when I tried it on it didn't feel that special.
Any thoughts?
My preferences are for:
Automatic movement
Separate GMT / UTC hand (as opposed to IWC style 2nd time zone indicator)
24 hr movable bezel as well as / instead of fixed 24 hr markings
Preferably internal bezel as opposed to diver style external bezel
Something that doesn't look too much like an Explorer me-too
Around 40mm case size
Tool watch look / feel as opposed to more dressy look
As unfussy as dial as possible
Preferably no more than £1000
Happy to buy used to get what I'm looking for
I've had a lot of fun searching but have found it alot harder than expected to find any options - the closest so far (which misses a lot of the preferences above) is the Bell & Ross BR V2 93 (pic below) but it's more expensive than I was looking to pay and when I tried it on it didn't feel that special.
Any thoughts?
Edited by Fullook on Sunday 27th January 20:20
I've been having the same Dilemma.
My GMT hole is temporarily filled with a Seiko SUN025P1 which cost me about £300 and I'm quite liking - but it's Quartz and very Explorerish.
If you want Automatic at that price point, I think your options are:
Steinhart Ocean GMT - several options available but diver style which you say you don't like, very good watch if you're happy with the homage thing.
Christopher Ward C8 UTC Worldtimer - might be a bit big at 44mm.
Squale 30 Atmos GMT - As per Steinhart.
Edited to add - Alpina Alpine 4 GMT
My GMT hole is temporarily filled with a Seiko SUN025P1 which cost me about £300 and I'm quite liking - but it's Quartz and very Explorerish.
If you want Automatic at that price point, I think your options are:
Steinhart Ocean GMT - several options available but diver style which you say you don't like, very good watch if you're happy with the homage thing.
Christopher Ward C8 UTC Worldtimer - might be a bit big at 44mm.
Squale 30 Atmos GMT - As per Steinhart.
Edited to add - Alpina Alpine 4 GMT
Edited by Seight_Returns on Monday 28th January 08:30
I love my one of these. Got a good discount from CW and paired it with a Nato strap. It's now my daily (aside from when I need to use my Apple Watch). 4mm over your ideal size but other than that it seems to tick the boxes.
https://www.christopherward.co.uk/c8-utc-worldtime...
Happy hunting!
https://www.christopherward.co.uk/c8-utc-worldtime...
Happy hunting!
Update - as per my post in 'Incoming', I found a microbrand called Monta Watches who have been around for a couple years and who released an auto GMT model called 'Skyquest' last year.
The reviews looked good and it met my criteria better than anything else I saw so I placed an order and after a bit of a wait while they made another batch, it arrived yesterday... wearing it now, and, I have to say, I'm very pleased with it:
The reviews looked good and it met my criteria better than anything else I saw so I placed an order and after a bit of a wait while they made another batch, it arrived yesterday... wearing it now, and, I have to say, I'm very pleased with it:
If you were to possibly consider a quartz watch, this (or even more so the "Flash Model) may fit the bill. Perfectly understand if quartz is not your choice though!
https://www.longines.co.uk/watch-conquest-l3-728-4...
https://www.longines.co.uk/watch-conquest-l3-728-4...
Pesky said:
If you were to possibly consider a quartz watch, this (or even more so the "Flash Model) may fit the bill. Perfectly understand if quartz is not your choice though!
https://www.longines.co.uk/watch-conquest-l3-728-4...
Funny, this one (with the black face) did catch my eye, I think they're very nice, if slightly 'sterile' looking if you know what I mean - quartz and lack of rotation on the 24hr markers put me off in the end though.https://www.longines.co.uk/watch-conquest-l3-728-4...
I have a Monta Oceanking (the first generation model) and I love it.
The finishing is excellent, with polished chamfers on the case, lugs, bracelet (both sides) & clasp - there’s not an uncomfortable sharp edge on the thing.
The bracelet is one of the best I’ve seen - fully articulating links (so they can actually be folded right back & stacked vertically on top of each other) mean the bracelet drapes nicely to fit your wrist. Excellent end-link fit to the case, screwed pins, a good clasp & beautiful finishing complete the package.
The hands & indices are also top-notch - diamond-cut for crisp lines, beautifully faceted to reflect light & plated with Rhodium so they have a real lustre.
In the above aspects, I think they are the equal - and in some ways, better than - my Rolex, Tudor & Omega watches.
The finishing is excellent, with polished chamfers on the case, lugs, bracelet (both sides) & clasp - there’s not an uncomfortable sharp edge on the thing.
The bracelet is one of the best I’ve seen - fully articulating links (so they can actually be folded right back & stacked vertically on top of each other) mean the bracelet drapes nicely to fit your wrist. Excellent end-link fit to the case, screwed pins, a good clasp & beautiful finishing complete the package.
The hands & indices are also top-notch - diamond-cut for crisp lines, beautifully faceted to reflect light & plated with Rhodium so they have a real lustre.
In the above aspects, I think they are the equal - and in some ways, better than - my Rolex, Tudor & Omega watches.
Glad you like it, OP 
It's always a bit of a gamble purchasing a watch without ever seeing one in the metal beforehand let alone trying it on. I was going to ask which bezel/dial combo you had ordered when you posted in the "Incoming" thread, the black & black works best on the Skyquest.
It's always a bit of a gamble purchasing a watch without ever seeing one in the metal beforehand let alone trying it on. I was going to ask which bezel/dial combo you had ordered when you posted in the "Incoming" thread, the black & black works best on the Skyquest.
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