RE: TVR Speed 16 design stuns
RE: TVR Speed 16 design stuns
Monday 16th May 2005

TVR Speed 16 design stuns

Gobsmacking design study with two engines


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TVR Speed 16 by T. Jon Meyer
TVR Speed 16 by T. Jon Meyer

PHer Los Angeles has unearthed these drawings by a Californian car designer of a theoretical TVR Speed 16.

LA writes:

"It's an extreme exercise in design given by tutor to student. The brief was, "Design a sports car for a movie with no restrictions on imagination or practicality." The result you see here in rendered form -- a superb clay model exists too -- is a dream version of a TVR Speed 16. The designer, T. Jon Mayer, chose TVR because he venerates the company and would love to work on its new models.

"For those who bemoan the lack of a modern V8 TVR, the Speed 16 has two, one in the nose, one in the rear, thus the ventilation grid in place of a rear window. Doors open suicide fashion. All else is there for good aerodynamic reasons. It's a courageous design, outrageous even. Nor is he afraid of using camouflage colours, adding, "Some flip colours work, some don't."

"Of course, it could never be put into production as conceived. Much would have to be altered, but as an exercise in harnessing the essence of TVR, it's a great success, and was duly lauded at his graduation show. It captures TVR's design language exactly.

"His starting point was the Tuscan. Like other students of his generation, he thinks TVR under Peter Wheeler's guidance, inspirational, exciting, rebellious, and futuristic. "Though the Tuscan has a dropped waist that weakens the design, and a fat rear, the car is still jaw dropping. I love the clam shell bonnet." The new Tuscan, he opines, is a diluted version of the original, but it doesn't dampen his enthusiasm for TVR. "They are such a great company."

"Jon is a Fine Arts graduate in Industrial Design who has studied car design at the famous Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, Los Angeles. (It is alma mater to Chris Bangle and J. Mays, among other luminaries.) As it's name suggests, the Transport Department studies new ways of getting us from A to B, in addition to encouraging talented students from around the world in taking a radical look at car shapes, inside and out.

"Many of the design projects are sponsored by car companies, though none yet by TVR. As they enter a new phase of their history perhaps they ought to take note of Jon. After all, if a retro company like Morgan can invite a 21 year old to make real his ideas for an Aero 8 Coupe, what's to stop TVR going one better?"

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Mr Freefall

Original Poster:

2,323 posts

287 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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NS take note (TVR)

Dont just mangle the Tuscan and call it the MK2. Reminds me of the Lexus used in The Minority Report.

Very creative mind, well done

Mr F

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

306 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Yes, it does rather look like a TVR in the Speed 12 vein, and could easily have come from TVR. Very good!

Bit concerned about the enclosed front wheels however. In the UK we have things called "corners" (like "curves" only sharper) which necessitate turning the front wheels. Either this has some fancy new form of spinner caps, or its potentially the fastest dumper in history!

lucozade

2,574 posts

308 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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lovely piece of work.

Agreed with the comments of the New Tuscan - it certainly is diluted from the original and IMHO still the best looking of the two.

burnt

1,371 posts

278 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Very creative, I particularly like the wrap around rear shell.

Need a bigger exhaust though

edited because I'm having a no brain day.

>> Edited by burnt on Monday 16th May 11:06

timaRROWSMITH

57 posts

305 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Its nice to see that TVR are attracting the attention of the up and coming designers....
..and that design is cool, hard as nails! i'd love TVR to bring out something seriously shocking now that they have the quality issues in hand.

John Nowak

108 posts

273 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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victormeldrew said:
Bit concerned about the enclosed front wheels however. In the UK we have things called "corners" (like "curves" only sharper) which necessitate turning the front wheels.


It looks as if they're designed to rotate with the wheels, oh wise European sage.

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Excellent design for a movie. I really like the Lexus in MR and this clearly would fit into a movie like this.

Not sure about the front though - but the rear, lovely!

J

Bitter'n'twisted

595 posts

287 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Bloody Vile.

nickytwohats

2,093 posts

270 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Twin engines have their legal challenges too!

nutcase

1,145 posts

281 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Utter shite, IMHO.

chris.mapey

4,778 posts

296 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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nickytwohats said:
Twin engines have their legal challenges too!


How? is this something I've missed. I always thought there was nothing to stop you haveing as many engines as you want...

Chris

cotty

42,224 posts

313 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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chris.mapey said:

nickytwohats said:
Twin engines have their legal challenges too!



How? is this something I've missed. I always thought there was nothing to stop you haveing as many engines as you want...

Chris


I dont think there is

Julian64

14,325 posts

283 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Sorry to go against the flow here, but I think the design is little more than a tuscan collage. Front tuscan, rear is a cross between a thunderbird and a parachute.

I always have a little chuckle when I see a designer getting adulation from fellow designers. It usually means the product is a total mess. Reminds me of the turner prize.

I personally think that TVR need a few less designers and few more engineers.

I have found in practice that the more well engineered it is the prettier it starts to look. Beauty is functionality in a car, not the other way round.

juk

580 posts

280 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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John Nowak said:

victormeldrew said:
Bit concerned about the enclosed front wheels however. In the UK we have things called "corners" (like "curves" only sharper) which necessitate turning the front wheels.



It looks as if they're designed to rotate with the wheels, oh wise European sage.


That's not to disguise that it's a three-wheeler is it?

xm5er

5,094 posts

277 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Its purple and appears to have a helmet.

joust

14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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chris.mapey said:

nickytwohats said:
Twin engines have their legal challenges too!

How? is this something I've missed. I always thought there was nothing to stop you haveing as many engines as you want...
Chris
Given the MTM bimoto (two engines) was built in Germany, one of the worse places for legislation, I don't think that's strictly the case...

www.mtm-online.de/html/bimoto/frameset.htm

J

klassiekerrally

2,543 posts

284 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Front looks like a squid.
And it is too smooth over all.

Could be more extreme, especially for a moviecar.
And twin engines... Come on! There once was a Citroën 2CV with two engines (the Sahara). IMHO that was a more extreme car than this one.

Not a lot of really new design ideas too, however I realize that that is almost impossible without getting ridiculous.

Edited to say: Feel like I'm getting old, and probably this guy IS a genius!

>> Edited by klassiekerrally on Monday 16th May 21:57

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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I like the back...

not too keen on the rest.

Have to say - absolutely top work, wish I had the know how to be able to do something like that. Maybe in time...

gallen (bph)

2,166 posts

284 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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I like the design style, but a nice set of wheels on the front too wouldnt go a miss - just to stop it looking like a Reliant Robin.

BCA

8,651 posts

286 months

Monday 16th May 2005
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Gallen - any chance of that Le Mans footage of the GT smart????? PLEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEE Gutted im not going in the smart this year... well, no, chuffed to be going in the Cerb, but I cant drive that on road. Just want to re-live the memory

thanks in advance,
Ben CA
TVR Smart GT LM.