Early speculation: Predictions for 992RS??

[RDMcG]

I have my name down for the above to add to my existing 991 and 997 RS. Obviously this is based on the release of the 992 which looks like a decent improvement on the 992 equivalent model.Specifically the GT3RS

At this stage I have no particular information; am assuming PDK, more HP, possibly more lightweight materials.

Does anyone care to predict next car? What innovations?

. ( yes, yes, not a '73RS, too heavy, no longer a driver's car etc- but I like my 991 RS just fine so have gotten all that comment).

Edited by RDMcG on Friday 1st February 19:29

[Juno]

900HP with electric motors

[cormeist]

2RS or 3RS

[RDMcG]

cormeist said:

2RS or 3RS

3RS.will correct

[Juno]

cormeist said:

2RS or 3RS

900 would be the 2RS 4.0 twin turbo plus electric must be somewhere near there! we are already at 720 with no electric and the 992 is
ready for it.

[RDMcG]

Juno said:

900 would be the 2RS 4.0 twin turbo plus electric must be somewhere near there! we are already at 720 with no electric and the 992 is
ready for it.

Wondering if the 992-3RS would be hybrid .I suspect turbo for sure, but no idea..still not a hybrid fan, bit of a dinosaur I suppose.

[Juno]

RDMcG said:

Juno said:

900 would be the 2RS 4.0 twin turbo plus electric must be somewhere near there! we are already at 720 with no electric and the 992 is
ready for it.

Wondering if the 992-3RS would be hybrid .I suspect turbo for sure, but no idea..still not a hybrid fan, bit of a dinosaur I suppose.

Aren't we all

[isaldiri]

RDMcG said:

Wondering if the 992-3RS would be hybrid .I suspect turbo for sure, but no idea..still not a hybrid fan, bit of a dinosaur I suppose.

If it's turbo it's a 2rs rather than a 3rs?

[RDMcG]

isaldiri said:

If it's turbo it's a 2rs rather than a 3rs?

I am hoping that is the case but these days it seems as if its all turbo/hybrid and no idea if the 3RS will be any exception. No specific guidance even informally from the company.

[Cheib]

RDMcG said:

Juno said:

900 would be the 2RS 4.0 twin turbo plus electric must be somewhere near there! we are already at 720 with no electric and the 992 is
ready for it.

Wondering if the 992-3RS would be hybrid .I suspect turbo for sure, but no idea..still not a hybrid fan, bit of a dinosaur I suppose.

Porsche’s CEO is on record as saying the first hybrid 911 will be 992.2 generation and will be “the most powerful 911 ever”....I think it’ll be a Turbo S on steroids (like the top end Panamera) rather than a GT car as it’ll be 4wd.

Taffy posted an interesting update on the 991.2 GT3 RS “second batch” saying he’d heard that Porsche are having issues making GPF work with the NASP engine. That presumably has implication for 992 GT cars.

[JulierPass]

3RS NA with hybrid, 2RS turbo and hybrid.I'll bet a penny to a pound that's what we end up with.

[cormeist]

Agree. 3RS will more than likely be NA with Hybrid tech which i can see being awesome and actually we probably wouldn't even tell the difference, possibly displacement decrease? maybe? either way, i am very excited for whats to come, 992 GT3 will be awesome can you imagine what the 3RS will look like!!

Total change of motor, Taycan... now that will be a game changer, not sure its a bit of me, i like the pure NA sound but 600bhp electric crikey!

Question is, do i bite the bullet and give the nod to my CP that i would like one?

[Cheib]

JulierPass said:

3RS NA with hybrid, 2RS turbo and hybrid.I'll bet a penny to a pound that's what we end up with.

Well either Porsche’s CEO is wrong in stating that the first hybrid 911 won’t come til 992.2 or there won’t be a 992,1 RS.

[Tripe Bypass]

I read that the GT3 and RS are going to fitted with the current 7 speed PDK rather than the 8 speed Panamera box in the cooking 992. If true, that would indicate no hybrid and an instant 20-odd kilo weight advantage.

[gtsralph]

Video

https://www.motor1.com/news/303732/porsche-911-gt3...


Piccy

Edited by gtsralph on Monday 4th February 20:34

[smudger911]

gtsralph said:

Video

https://www.motor1.com/news/303732/porsche-911-gt3...


Piccy

Edited by gtsralph on Monday 4th February 20:34

Engines & GPF aside, if that drives anything like it looks then holy cow!

[Taffy66]

The massive elephant in the room regarding any future NA Porsche 992 GT3 and 991.2 GT3 RS second batch will be the GPF effect IMO.
The non EU cars which don't have to have a GPF fitted will have a headstart..I just hope that they don't introduce two different power variants depending on being a WLTP market or not.

[RDMcG]

gtsralph said:

Video

https://www.motor1.com/news/303732/porsche-911-gt3...


Piccy

Edited by gtsralph on Monday 4th February 20:34

I can't believe that the wing will even slightly resemble the ghastly one in the pic.

[Macca993]

IMO emmissions 6B will not pose any real threat to improved outputs for the 992 GTX 4.0L unit. Like always, Porsche will have this sorted out (if they have not already). If Alfa can pull it off with the latest production Giulia QV's without affecting performance (on paper at least) Im sure PAG are more than up to the task.

My guess for the 992.1 GT3 is a small bump in power and torque (think 20bhp and 9lbft), a wider track with revised pick up points/ suspension and a new Michelin/Pirelli tyre, revised aero and use of composites for hood and roof. Im thining weight will run similar at 1430kg with 7spd PDK.

I expect to see a big improvement asthetically with a meaningful Ring lap time improvement...

[Macca993]

anonymous said:

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Im liking your thinking and math here. 128-130 bhp/L is plausible from the 4.0L lump for the 992.1 GT3. IIRC Ferrari had 128 bhp/L for the 458 Speciale and that was 2013/4. Theyve already done it for the RS so I think its a given for the next GT3. I understand capacity will change only 50-70cc in line with changes to the Motorsports variant engine for the next GTX itierations. So with some careful mapping and improved tollerances its possible 540PS for the RS variant OK.

This is why I believe the benefits will be had in the chassis, aero and tyre tech like the last sub generational leap. Thay wider stance with a better tyre and PASM will yield better lap results, as long as they can address aero. I think we will see the NACA ducts for the brakes AKA GT2/3RS also as standard and a move to more composites to offset weight of increased bodywork.

Good point regards 6B for NA engines. I didnt realise that posed further challenges. they will solve the problem. they always do. One thing is for sure they will make even more of them than the 991.2 (a lot!).