Co2 will become the driving factor....

[Twinfan]

I agree. We've reached, and probably just passed, peak internal combustion engine cars.

[cormeist]

A shame but its true, took the 2RS out today on Cup2's, you just cant beat the sound, looks and sound is why i ONLY buy Porsche, Taycan will no doubt be blinking quick, but will it pull at the heart strings?

[Cheib]

I think the doublng of Taycan Numbers (which I haven’t seen before) is probably a lot to do with the future of Hybrid’s....or rather the lack of future.

[Juno]

BREXIT WTO WLTP GPF OMG WTF we are surely doomed and may have seen the best cars already,pleased to have my 991.2 4.0 screamer

[Theone8181]

anonymous said:

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I can't imagine electric will be all that much cheaper, think of all the money in fuel duty that will be lost. No government will let that happen so we will just end up paying the same for electric I'm sure (my guess is some sort of road subsidy like Road tax but will cost 3 to 4 grand per year).

[Dammit]

Road tax isn't spent on roads, that comes out of general taxation, or council tax.

We've only got two taxes that go on what they are called (road tax hasn't been called road tax since 1939 on that note), which is the TV licence and fishing licences IIRC.

We might finally see the start of usage charging for the road network to make up for the loss of fuel duty, that would (could) be a fairly direct swap.

[SRT Hellcat]

anonymous said:

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I think you are spouting utter nonsense. You are being suckered in mate. No different to diesel is the way forward. How will you charge your car when you live in a tower block, block of flats, terraced house. For those that have the luxury of their own driveway / garage it can work. But it is not for me. In the US they stick a gas guzzler tax on the purchase price. A $1000 from memory. Any lost revenue from fuel duty will have to be clawed back elsewhere. Anyone that thinks EV is the answer to cheap motoring in the future is dreaming. You will get right royally screwed. Be it built in obsolescence or replacement battery packs.
I will continue to fire up my V8 every morning. An EV is about as involving and exciting as virtual sex and that is way overstating the joy of an electric vehicle.

[ooid]

SRT Hellcat said:

I think you are spouting utter nonsense. You are being suckered in mate. No different to diesel is the way forward. How will you charge your car when you live in a tower block, block of flats, terraced house. For those that have the luxury of their own driveway / garage it can work.

You should check this than

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/electric/electric-ch...

Hackney, Islington and Southwark, all rolling out new EV charging points now.

I'm currenly living in a block of flats. 5 neighbours got EVs already, they share a charging point at our car-park. I also think they are new models so the range is good.

[ooid]

Cmoose, what do you think of Toyota/Lexus approach? They are still not full going to EV yet, most research and production based on hybrids.

Evs quite tempting now but for reliability and future-proof I think I would go for Lexus in the near future.

[Digga]

anonymous said:

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All the EV manufacturers like to quote this time to 80% charge, but as I understand it, the last 20% of charge for many EVs takes nearly as long as the first 80% - i.e. the charge-rate is non-linear - so it's a little misleading.

Reading a recent article by a journalist that went from Paris to Mannheim in a Tesla, they inferred that charging little and often was generally the best idea.

[Digga]

I think the 80% charging speed is a fairly standard metric for all manufacturers to use.

[notsomadmick]

Juno said:

BREXIT WTO WLTP GPF OMG WTF we are surely doomed and may have seen the best cars already,pleased to have my 991.2 4.0 screamer

Same here.