Anyone have a draft beer keg?
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wjwren

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161 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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Been looking at these Phillips perfect draft systems, anyone got one or similar? Are the any good?

Fast and Spurious

1,802 posts

114 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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I have a Sub. The beer is excellent. I was quite surprised, it knocks bottled beer into a cocked-hat.

Matt Harper

6,973 posts

227 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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My brother has draft Guinness at home with a Kegerator system. It is f*cking awesome. Takes a bit of setting up though - needs CO2 and Nitrogen and getting that balance right is a bit of a black art (see what I did there?)

ReaperCushions

7,460 posts

210 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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How long does the beer keep in these systems?

I've often fancied one, but probably don't drink enough to warrant it.

singlecoil

35,813 posts

272 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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ReaperCushions said:
How long does the beer keep in these systems?
https://www.beerhawk.co.uk/perfect-draft-starter-bundle


ecsrobin

18,570 posts

191 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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singlecoil said:
ReaperCushions said:
How long does the beer keep in these systems?
https://www.beerhawk.co.uk/perfect-draft-starter-bundle
The answer if you don’t want to click the link and read through everything is 30days.

RedWhiteMonkey

8,848 posts

208 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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I was given a Philips Perfect Draft a few years ago as a birthday present. It is pretty good but like a lot of these sorts of gadgets it has been relegated to the cupboard, it does make appearances for parties. I found it took up quite a lot of space and I don’t drink that much these days so having to drink the keg in 30 days was an issue.

magooagain

12,852 posts

196 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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How much is in a keg?

StuTheGrouch

5,909 posts

188 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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6 litres (just shy of 12 pints)

Rosscow

9,600 posts

189 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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StuTheGrouch said:
6 litres (just shy of 12 pints)
10.5 pints (568ml per pint)

I would have no trouble drinking that in 30 days laugh

soad

34,435 posts

202 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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StuTheGrouch said:
6 litres (just shy of 12 pints)
Wouldn't last the weekend...

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

171 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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I home brew, always got around 40 pints of beer available on draught from a pressure barrel. Want to move towards a proper keg system one day.

HarryFlatters

4,203 posts

238 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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C0ffin D0dger said:
I home brew, always got around 40 pints of beer available on draught from a pressure barrel. Want to move towards a proper keg system one day.
Ditto.

In the process of setting up a cornelius keg system. I'm working with party taps at the moment but they just produce lots of foam because of the diameter and length of the tubing.

PositronicRay

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209 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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What about real ales?

HarryFlatters

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238 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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PositronicRay said:
What about real ales?
Typically cask beers aren't carbonated (other than what is naturally produced during fermentation), and require a beer engine to dispense authentically.

C70R

17,596 posts

130 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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I've never really understood those mini-keg systems, like the Philips one. I can't understand why anyone would buy one.

Too small to be any use at a party, because if you're even remotely popular you'll be changing the 'barrel' more than once an hour. The Sub is only 3.5pts, and the Perfect Draft is only 10.5pts.

Too expensive to justify having it lying around for occasional consumption, because the quality/choice of canned and bottled beers at even a medium-sized supermarket is far better. Beer for these systems tends to be 99% lager, and frankly I can't imagine going to all that effort just to drink cooking lager.

They are basically a novelty item, usually bought for the sort of bloke who has a 'bar' in the garage of his newbuild 3-bed semi.

If you're having a big gathering, hire a proper keg/cask and get someone to set it up for you.
If you're looking for a smaller, more novelty affair, you can get standalone mini-casks that don't require spending a couple of hundred quid on a machine that will live in the shed for 360 days a year.
(like this: https://cellarandkitchen.adnams.co.uk/kit/view/adn...
or this: https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/ser...

Edited by C70R on Tuesday 5th February 12:55

super7

2,219 posts

234 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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HarryFlatters said:
PositronicRay said:
What about real ales?
Typically cask beers aren't carbonated (other than what is naturally produced during fermentation), and require a beer engine to dispense authentically.
A Beer Engine? What's one of them.....??

Authentic Real Ale is straight out of the Barrel..... Tap it, Hard/Soft peg depending on how soon your going to drink it, Once it's soft pegged you've drawn air from outside into the barrel you've got about 3days to drink it?

I thought proper pasteurised Kegs with a CO2/ Nitrogen gas would last upto 3mths. Ours did at least?

Outside air is what kills beer.... or more specifically causes bacteria too kill it.

HarryFlatters

4,203 posts

238 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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In a pub, I mean. Hand pulled cask beer drink

And if you have barrelled beer at home, and can get through 32 gallons in 3 days, you're a better man than I hehe

Edited by HarryFlatters on Tuesday 5th February 13:33

SwanJack

1,953 posts

298 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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HarryFlatters said:
C0ffin D0dger said:
I home brew, always got around 40 pints of beer available on draught from a pressure barrel. Want to move towards a proper keg system one day.
Ditto.

In the process of setting up a cornelius keg system. I'm working with party taps at the moment but they just produce lots of foam because of the diameter and length of the tubing.
I moved to keg a while back. Kegerator in garage, lines to two wall taps in the utility room and one keg always in reserve !

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

171 months

Tuesday 5th February 2019
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SwanJack said:
HarryFlatters said:
C0ffin D0dger said:
I home brew, always got around 40 pints of beer available on draught from a pressure barrel. Want to move towards a proper keg system one day.
Ditto.

In the process of setting up a cornelius keg system. I'm working with party taps at the moment but they just produce lots of foam because of the diameter and length of the tubing.
I moved to keg a while back. Kegerator in garage, lines to two wall taps in the utility room and one keg always in reserve !
Soon as I've got some spare cash the splurge on Cornelius kegs will begin. I already have a tall larder fridge that I got off eBay last year, currently just shove the pressure barrel in it. It's just the initial outlay that a little off putting but I'm sure I'll never look back.