Thank you letters
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stuartmmcfc

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8,775 posts

222 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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I need some advice. We always make sure our kids, even though they’re teenagers now, write a thank you letter at Christmas and birthdays.
My sisters children never do. The oldest and youngest at least pick the phone up to say thank you.
. They live in the West Country so we’re lucky if we see them twice a year.
The middle one is an annoying st. He’s just started Cambridge Uni.
He’s tall, good looking and is brillant at sports and can play any instrument and has now got a stunning girlfriend.
I’m not jealous honestly.
It’s coming up to his birthday and I want to just send a card with no money attached.
My Wife thinks I’m being petty and my Sister is bound to be offended but I want to make a point.
What should I do?


Oh and he supports Man Utd.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

274 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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LosingGrip

8,870 posts

189 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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I think we stopped doing presents for cousins at 18 and it was just a card.

Then again I don't really see any of my extended family and try and do everything I can to avoid seeing them.

Butter Face

34,888 posts

190 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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LosingGrip said:
I think we stopped doing presents for cousins at 18 and it was just a card.
Same here for all branches of our family, no presents after 18 (apart from parents at christmas)

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,775 posts

222 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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The problem is I’ve sent money up to his older brothers 21st, but he phoned to say thank you. And, tbh, I’ve always felt sorry for him because he’s got a few issues and lives in the shadow of his perfect younger brother.
I’ve just had an idea of sending a book token with a message that since hard cash wasn’t really any good to him, I’ve had a think and this token may be of use in his academic studies. I still won’t get a thank you though.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

228 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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When you say month do you mean £10/20/50?

I’d not bother but maybe you could send a lucky dip lotto ticket instead

Henners

12,424 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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^ this

stuartmmcfc

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8,775 posts

222 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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I’d like a thank you parade but I’d settle for an acknowledgement smile

Bill

58,703 posts

285 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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anonymous said:
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I can see why it grates though. His siblings have manners, so why's he an ignorant ste.

Cold

16,717 posts

120 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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I blame the parents.

Kermit power

29,622 posts

243 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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I find thank-you letters a bit of an oddity!

I was very much brought up with a culture of sending them, but then again, I was also brought up at a time where mobile phones were something from science fiction, and the cost of a landline call to say thanks would've been more than the cost of the present in the first place!

As I recall, a typical thank-you letter used to go something like this...

Thank-you letter said:
Dear Granny & Granddad,

Thank you for the jumper with the dancing sheep on it that you got me for Christmas. I will think of you fondly when my mates are mercilessly ripping the piss out of me because I'm 15 now, not five.

I hope you had a nice Christmas.

Love from me.
Was there any two-way dialogue there? Was there any opportunity for laughter and bonding? Was there, in fact, anything at all except a piece of paper written out of a sense of obligation by an average kid who, let's face it, was never likely to challenge the supremacy of the likes of Hemingway when it comes to drawing up a list of the greatest letter writers of all time.

Personally, if I get written letters from my kids once they leave home or eventually grandchildren should I have them, my first reaction will be to wonder what I've done to upset or offend them that means they'd rather deliver their thanks through the coldly impersonal medium of the written word rather than firing up a video call and having a nice chat, where the purveyance of gratitude is a mere bagatelle compared to the pleasure of getting to talk to them about what they're up to, how they're doing and everything else you'd want to talk about.

However, given that the middle one can't even be arsed to pick up the phone, I'd suggest buying a goat for an African on his behalf or some such nonsense, and enclose a copy of the thank-you email from the charity and a note to say that as you've clearly been so dreadful at buying him presents that he likes over the years, you thought he'd be delighted to know that at least the people for whom you bought a goat on his behalf were clearly very grateful. smile

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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I have 5 nieces and nephews.

One side of the family (2b and 1g) are polite and friendly and always communicated. And now they're older we have a relationship as friends.

The other side might as well not exist. They get presents the same as everyone to avoid family arguments, but if we died Im sure they wouldn't care.

In fact I'm thinking of changing my will as I don't have kids of my own and don't fancy giving them a great wodge of cash.

It will cause arguments but I'll be dead so won't care

Antony Moxey

10,709 posts

249 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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What is the point you’re trying to make, and how does sending a card with no money make that point?

bristolbaron

5,382 posts

242 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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My wife makes our (much younger) kids send thank you cards to pretty much anyone that’s ever smiled at them. They’re at the ‘kids party every weekend’ stage and we’ve had perhaps one or two cards back in the last year.

Have you ever spoken with you sister about your expectations? Do you receive a thank you for gifts you give her?

It seems a bit odd you’re not pleased for your talented nephew, if it’s all over a lack of ‘thank you’s’ maybe you should speak with him too?

glenrobbo

40,508 posts

180 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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Kermit power said:
I find thank-you letters a bit of an oddity!

I was very much brought up with a culture of sending them, but then again, I was also brought up at a time where mobile phones were something from science fiction, and the cost of a landline call to say thanks would've been more than the cost of the present in the first place!

As I recall, a typical thank-you letter used to go something like this...

Thank-you letter said:
Dear Granny & Granddad,

Thank you for the jumper with the dancing sheep on it that you got me for Christmas. I will think of you fondly when my mates are mercilessly ripping the piss out of me because I'm 15 now, not five.

I hope you had a nice Christmas.

Love from me.
Was there any two-way dialogue there? Was there any opportunity for laughter and bonding? Was there, in fact, anything at all except a piece of paper written out of a sense of obligation by an average kid who, let's face it, was never likely to challenge the supremacy of the likes of Hemingway when it comes to drawing up a list of the greatest letter writers of all time.

Personally, if I get written letters from my kids once they leave home or eventually grandchildren should I have them, my first reaction will be to wonder what I've done to upset or offend them that means they'd rather deliver their thanks through the coldly impersonal medium of the written word rather than firing up a video call and having a nice chat, where the purveyance of gratitude is a mere bagatelle compared to the pleasure of getting to talk to them about what they're up to, how they're doing and everything else you'd want to talk about.

However, given that the middle one can't even be arsed to pick up the phone, I'd suggest buying a goat for an African on his behalf or some such nonsense, and enclose a copy of the thank-you email from the charity and a note to say that as you've clearly been so dreadful at buying him presents that he likes over the years, you thought he'd be delighted to know that at least the people for whom you bought a goat on his behalf were clearly very grateful. smile
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Monkeylegend

29,293 posts

261 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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stuartmmcfc said:
I need some advice. We always make sure our kids, even though they’re teenagers now, write a thank you letter at Christmas and birthdays.
My sisters children never do. The oldest and youngest at least pick the phone up to say thank you.
. They live in the West Country so we’re lucky if we see them twice a year.
The middle one is an annoying st. He’s just started Cambridge Uni.
He’s tall, good looking and is brillant at sports and can play any instrument and has now got a stunning girlfriend.
I’m not jealous honestly.
It’s coming up to his birthday and I want to just send a card with no money attached.
My Wife thinks I’m being petty and my Sister is bound to be offended but I want to make a point.
What should I do?


Oh and he supports Man Utd.
This is one instance when as the adult you should maybe maintain the moral high ground, but send him a blank "Thank you " card inside your card. That should embarrass him into saying thanks although he probably won't mean it.

And that's really the point, you give because you want to give, not because you expect any thanks in return.

Monkeylegend

29,293 posts

261 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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stuartmmcfc said:
What should I do?


Oh and he supports Man Utd.
Tell him you support Man C.

NDA

25,631 posts

255 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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I'd send the money, but along with "I know you don't normally acknowledge gifts I send, but perhaps you could let me know this has been received?".

He's probably got a tiny knob, at least you can hope.

R4PID

1,060 posts

275 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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The advent of the smartphone has bought with it some great capability that simply wasn't there years ago and disrupted how we live and interact beyond recognition in just a few short years.

The one area it is has totally failed in is the banishing of any kind of greeting, christmas or thank you card along with the social scruples that come with it. If anything it's now more confusing than ever.

This disappoints me greatly. I'd quite happily watch all card shops burn. Sorry OP but we're in a period of smartphone social transition as far as gifts and cards are concerned. I doubt even Debrett can help.

Henners

12,424 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th February 2019
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NDA said:
He's probably got a tiny knob, at least you can hope.
Didn't you see, he's smashing a hottie hehe